Did the responsible thing, waited until I had full PvP gear - fresh ilvl 476 Pres Evoker. Excited to try PvP. Vers is over 30%. I’m pumped.
Never played Evoker before this season.
Get into a match on the other side with a Resto Druid in as near full Conquest as he can be. He is crowd controlling me like he’s been doing this for years… all the while no matter how we switch up the DPS, no one on the team can do damage through the Resto.
For nearly 20 minutes, I get my sweet lovable scaly buttcheeks pounded in against the guy who both outgears and outclasses me and makes his team unkillable.
Resto wins 5 matches.
Everyone else gets 2 or 3 wins depending.
I get one kill and walk away with 25 conquest.
Can’t imagine why this mode just doesn’t attract new people, especially healers. The new player experience is outstanding!
Well I mean overall I think you just got outplayed.
But I think part of it can be attributed to:
Healer balance. Rdruid is still top tier with most others dragging pretty far behind except disc. Pres being arguably the worst.
Mmr and deflated ladder. Lower mmrs are flooded with high tier players playing way lower than they normally are because the ladder is so deflated. Pretty common for a lot of players even at 1500-1800 to have duelist enchants and/or glad mounts whether they are alts or not.
But I think you getting 1-5’d vs a rdruid better than you is just kinda what happens but could be overcome with better play to an extent.
Oh for sure. I’m sure I played like someone who’s just stepped foot into the arena for the first time… because that’s exactly what happened. lol.
But it’s also really sad to see that the balance is just terrible too, so even if I wasn’t making it harder on myself by not playing great… it was probably over the second the match was made.
Let me ask you this, imagine you’ve been playing arena a good bit now and are doing fairly well skill wise.
Would the game be more fun for you if your higher skill/familiarity translated to you beating your inexperienced/not so good opponent, or would it be more fun if he was doing everything wrong and just generally playing worse than you but still causing you to lose?
Yo. Welcome to pres. We actually counter druids because of our AOE purge and ability to do damage to targets he hasn’t hotted. If you want some tips or a vod review or whatever I’m happy to chat it’s a fun spec even if weak right now
That + the pitiful honor feels awful, but at least you get a lil something as healer. DPS get nothin’.
The difference between skill req between different classes definitely has issues and that extends to healers, as well as the general difference of having to build scenarios where you can cast/position without getting CC’d is harder with 25 yards
Thanks man - that’s a nice offer. I’m happy to take you up on it sometime. I’ll probably start by watching a few Pres PvP videos - I was feeling myself a bit, got excited about getting my PvP set together and probably got ahead of myself. Tried another game, still a complete poopshow, but at least I managed to squeak out 2 victories. Had one more match gone my way, woulda tied the other guy. Not sure how rewards work in solo, but sounds like winning 3 is expected and good.
Truth.
The main reason I pointed that out is it’s not quite the same as a DPS just being completely outgeared by another DPS, as he’ll be on your team for 1-2 matches - and out of the 3 other DPS, just need 1 other to be at your relative level and you have a fair chance of winning.
Healer, it’s a different story. If the other healer is better than me - be it skill, class and/or gear - for six matches, I’m very likely to just lose 4-5 games and that’s all there is to it.
In some ways yes, but it also means you’re going to get certain matchups where the comp favors you on your particular healer, as time goes on you sort of pick up things you can capitalize on. In some matches the healer capitalizing means a lot and in other ones it’s just about throughput healing or avoiding CC.
The bigger problem with shuffle is just the MMR and deflation, so even 1600-1700 is too sweaty
1.6k in SS is the new 2.4-2.6k. I literally just got out of a match where 2 people independently told me they were 2.4k rated last season. Its both hysterical and downright absurd that its gotten to this level.
1.6k in shuffle is 1.6k, just because rating is given out for free near the end of the season doesn’t mean they are better players. If they are at your mmr they are either passing by or just as skilled as you are.
OK, but here’s the thing. I’m stepping into Arena for the first time.
Why do I have to lose down to my skill bracket?
It’s my first time in arena!
Why for the love of god am I not in the lowest skill bracket to begin with?!
IT’S MY FIRST FREAKING ARENA. lol
Also all greens? How exactly do I go into competitive PvP with anything but all greens? Heck, I thought I was doing the responsible thing by making sure I had a full set of entry level PvP gear before doing any meaningful PvP.
Did I miss some obviously easy way to be conquest capped on the season that doesn’t involve rated PvP or something?
You know I’m dogpoop at PvP. I know I’m dogpoop at PvP.
This entire forum knows I’m dogpoop at PvP.
I just don’t get why Blizzard is the only one that doesn’t seem to get it - how many more rounds do I need to be willing to lose before I start playing people who are also dogpoop? 30? 300? Or am I simply the worst player in the game at this point and there is no one left to match me with?
The game is doing exactly what you want it to do, its dropping you below an even entry level mmr.
Again you can learn to play from losses, so what does it matter? You seem to just have a bad mentality for the game mode. Doesn’t matter how bad you are, your goal should be simply to improve your play.
Your enemies mmr doesn’t change what you should be attempting to do.
it’s a fun spec even if weak right now