On my main’s server the AH is being flooded with what appears to be bots posting mass number of items so cheaply it is impossible for most legitimate people trying to use their professions to make gold on the AH.
I know blizzard wants to make it so the AH is the primary gold maker once again but that is impossible to do when a bunch of bots are able to amass so much items that they can sell it cheaper than what most of us can make a living on.
My guess: the holidays are here and people have more time to farm stuff. The AH prices on Area 52 dropped dignificantly as soon as the week of Thanksgiving happened. And it’s probably gonna get worse in a few weeks.
Yea but 7 full stacks of battle potions for 2K per stack? …yea I somehow doubt a player put that there.
There arent as many raiders now to drive up the prices. They should pick back up once the new raid releases. Right now may be a good time to stock up on some things to sell in 8.1.5
Man, I always loved when I would be called a bot by whiners in whispers. And the glorious hate-mail on occasion.
Fun times.
The auction house is primarily designed as a trade mechanism and gold sink. There is no gold made in the Auction house. It merely moves from hand to hand. Questing, missions, dungeons, and raids are the only way to actually make gold in the game.
OP, have you reported it? Also as of yesterday, Alliance was still contributing to warfronts. Its possible someone is trying for last minute sales.
I had noticed the same thing, other than Monelite Ore and certain mini pets ALL of my auctions have been pointless lately.
I’m going to sit on stuff until mid- Q1 and see if I do better.
Send them my way. I like cheap prices.
Good. Raid mats were too expensive for my tastes.
That said I don’t believe there’s really been a fundamental new “invasion of bots.” I think more likely the demand from people who want to consume mats (progression raiders) has dropped substantially by this point – people have stopped raiding, or playing, or are overgeared to the point they don’t need them.
It’ll pick back up with new raid tier.
I find the AH add-ons to be particularly distasteful. Knocking 1 copper off whatever is lowest so they will be lower. I don’t mind players doing this manually, but when a program is used to do this I find it a practice that I believe should be eliminated.
I’ve also found that I can manipulate these programs, and thus cause the users to either sell nothing, or lose money doing it.
I’m still baffled by people listing a naga scale for 23k or a shirt pattern for 200k. Makes me wonder what dung these people have for brains. They aren’t using them to transfer gold either as they are consistently there, day after day. Unsurprisingly, unsold.
Thing is I have no real evidence they are actually botting I just see AH alts posting massive number of mats/items for dirt cheap prices.
I mean are they botting likely it could also be someone who has a lot of time of his hands to farm.
So I just cant exactly mass ticket all the names of these AH chars with baseless accusations of botting.
Look at the auctions by time left. You’ll see way too many in a row by one person, all for different prices (specifically 1 copper less). No way a human can do that.
Don’t forget multi-boxers, and also multi-boxing bots. Since herb nodes are shared via 15-20 seconds after first loot you will see tons of groups of bots and or multi-boxers farming nodes and driving prices down with so many more mats that no one else can really sell.
It is not that …its all the same price but its like 20% or 30 % less than the person who is posting the 2nd lowest price.
Any human with TSM or similar addon can do that. I’m not sure why anyone who chooses to focus on playing the AH would or should choose to do it a more tedious way.
Either way, as someone who buys my supplies on the AH, I just want them to be fairly priced and well supplied. Thanks to the relatively few goblins who make that possible for the rest of us.
I haven’t heard word of what bots people are using since that well known one closed up shop. The one I even heard mentioned people have said sucks, so I like to think and hope botting is almost dead. I dunno.
Yes but you must also take the seller into consideration as well. That being said I think that 5k per one full stack of battle potions of AG or Int or 15K person of one full stack of flasks is reasonable
As long as you have good reason to suspect and are not a habitual false reporter, you would be okay to report it.
I mean honestly, you have basically called out this person on the forums (because we can see your server and then see who is doing it) with baseless accusations of botting which serves zero purpose at all.
Its up to you but if you really think that is what’s happening, you owe it to yourself and your server to report otherwise Blizzard may never be aware of it.
EDIT: Having said all that, I have read ahead in the thread and I understand your hesitation to report now. Undercutting by 20-30% may be frustrating but it is common and another legitimate use of the AH.
Not sure if you actually believe there is botting or if you just wanted to complain about undercutters but if that is the main evidence you have, you probably should not report.
It’s the add-ons that I’m talking about. You shouldn’t be forced to use third party software to be competitive in any aspect of this game. If I have to spend an hour pricing everything 1 copper lower because Joe blow is using a program to do his pricing for him, and it does it instantly, without his interaction then there is problem there.