“But it’ll be different this time! I swear!!”
Ulduar will have a difficulty, but it’s not this massive brick wall to progression or the guild killer people want to pretend it is. If it didn’t kill any of the guilds on my backwater server from OG wrath, it shouldn’t kill the dad guilds we have now.
EDIT: “Just wait for ICC 25m hardmode! that’s the REAL difficulty of wrath!”
That’s the beauty of this design. You can easily clear it on normal, which feels better than just brick walling a boss you cannot kill. Once many casual guilds have enough they can simply kill it on normal and try hardmode next week. This is the main reason it didn’t kill guilds, and won’t kill guilds again.
The later boss hard modes will take some doing but the first 4 bosses(FL, ignis, drago, XT) are fairly easy, with FL hard mode just taking coordination and attention, XT hard mode you can legit just inadvertently activate if your DPS is high enough.
My main point is that people are hyping ulduar up to be this massive difficulty curve when that curve is entirely based on alternate difficulty modes and some bosses like Yogg and Algalon.
Why are you so fuming lol.
Why is it your class has to be buffed around the meta, even tho it’s never in the meta outside of algy so far, unfortunately classic has been about meta play since 2019.
If you want to be in the meta. Play a meta class, don’t expect buffs in classic until tier 10 then what… probably get re nerfed? Like I don’t get what y’all want. Outside of the meta ret is fine. Paladin in general is fine. S tier in the 2 other specs. Why do you guys act like you need to be a tier in all 3.
Ret paladins are like people who buy houses next to airports and then complain about the noise.
You all knew it was going to suck.
I don’t think they did. I think they saw ICC numbers and thought they’d be mid-high tier the whole game… they didn’t realize their t10 set is busted for them.
2 of those bosses don’t even have hard modes…
Oh man the level of hilarity that would be lmao. Just the double down. Even as ret it would give me a hearty chuckle.
For me I’d just like the gape between ret and others to be smaller but I am content to wait til later in the game for that as well.
Exactly, which is why I didn’t bring them up. Just put them under the “Easy boss” category. My writing may have been misleading tho. Only on coffee number two this morning.
Also I never did that, I explained a high 99 to r1. I did say for 90 and below the gap closes. And that’s where more of the avg non sweaty players are. Or people who don’t try and parse.
Comparing the top end of classes is comparing all the sweaty perfect pull resets and 30-60 second faster kill times.
And you’re talking about a class with no burst, expecting it right now to do 2k more damage. That’s mental.
Ulduar has less burst and I saw a ret doing fine except hodir. And he’s not sweaty at all
i would love to quote the entire post, but i can’t moving on.
No lies detected.
further more one of the best changes made to classes was to remove the hybrid tax.
Hey that’s me. My guild and I have been memeing about this all week, thanks for adding to it here on the forums.
hey at least you’re not an arms warrior
i asked he does not enjoy ret, krhon affi lock arch inc
As long as he follows his heart and does what they find fun, all is well!
Stacking Warriors I see …
Only enough room in this raid to carry one terrible class sadly
Apparently it is - they brought you to the raid after all and it clearly wasn’t for your damage ;p
For utility no doubt ;p
You love homogenization and retail minded balance. I still can’t figure why you’re playing Wrath.
This is honestly a perfect analogy.
They allow paladins to dps, blizzard never said you weren’t allowed to play dps. Someone has to be on the bottom, if it’s not ret who will it be? Are you going to cry for them to get buffed too? Are you going to cry frost mage needs pve buffs? Blizzard have mage 3 dps specs, one of them is not being bought to raids at all, why aren’t you crying about frost.mags and sub rogues? Ret is being bought to raids and they’re doing fine. Every paladin spec has a spot in raids. The same can’t be said for other classes.
It will be fine.
They brought UH DK to your level. 