Can you properly play Brewmaster without WeakAuras?

I’m just learning the class, day 2, but man I don’t think I could survive without WeakAuras. I find myself staring at my indicators tracking my stagger, Ironskin Brew, Key Smash, etc…I had to make my own WeakAuras so I can condense it and move it up to my characters head.

I just want to know if anyone else feels like this, that there are so many different CD’s, so many abilities, so many count down’s you have to track that it would be overwhelming withotu WA

If anyone is interested here is what my WeakAura’s looks like (4K image warning, it will be big for you people on 1080p monitors):

i.imgur . com/pq74HBp.jpg (remove the space between the dot)

I don’t think you can play this game at all without weakauras(or similar addon) at this point, especially for tanking. I would feel so confused and stressed without all my gauges and icons and such. Its too much, too fast.

Which probably says something negative about their game design but I have my WAs so I don’t care.

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That was sort of the point I was trying to make

Could people clear mythic Raids without Deadly Boss Mods?
Could people play their class correctly without WeakAuras?

It is complicated designed made manageable with an unofficial addon

I only use two wa, the Rivers stagger and a basic ironskin brew counter, but I’d be gimping myself without them.

Yes they can be tracked in other ways but not well. Blizzard seems happy to implement play styles that far outstrip its dated ui.

Weakauras and Addons help you make decisions and track things that would otherwise take a lot of coordination and awareness from an individual.

For the higher end / mid range guilds I don’t think they would have too much of an issue but even the lower end guilds that might only kill 3 or 4 mythic bosses, or less, a tier I think would still step it up to communicate. The area that would hurt the most would be pugs, by far.

DBM definitely allows the developers to do more with an encounter but if it vanished tomorrow I believe that the majority of players would still be ok but its also for this reason that Normal / heroic / mythic have a different # of mechanics.

For a lot of progression mythic fights the timers on DBM will be inaccurate anyway until pulls are made and data is submitted.

There are a lot of people out there that play Brewmaster at a baseline level without weak auras or addons. If you want to do it, go ahead, but your not really doing yourself any favors lol.

I tank as a brm without WAs. So yes its possible.

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I also dont use any addons when i tank. But im not tanking in mythic raids or anything. All i do is stack my iron brew to the max and use purify when damage gets to be high. Other than that to try to keep my iorn above 6 seconds all the time if not max.

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So you honestly think people would be able to clear Mythic Raids without any addon support?

This. I prefer to have as little visual noise on the screen as possible when tanking. It lets me focus on other things like positioning.

Same, I am pretty minimalistic on add-ons for PVE.

As others stated, the average player isn’t clearing mythic. When m+ is a better source of gear overall.

Yup. Most of my addons are a couple changes to the ui, inventory and other non essentials. I have dbm because my raid leader requires it and it helps me for when I’m dpsing

Big difference between playing “properly” and playing “optimally.”

It’s a sad comment on the current raiding and M+ scene that the two are very often conflated.

If you want your wowanalyzer’d logs to be all green, you’re probably using addons to move your action bars/buttons, weakauras or something similar, boss timer mods, or a combination of everything.

And saying the top guilds wouldn’t have much of an issue without addons is pretty hilarious.

Wow analyzer is shoddy at best because it doesn’t take into account a lot of movement and things for some fights.

That said, I don’t have any addons that move bars, buttons. I don’t use weakauras, and while I have DBM I have a lot of things disabled and I can still get “green” in the analyzer. I’m also not a hardcore raider I don’t even set foot into Mythic raids. I run Mythic+ Dungeons, but again not past 11 or 12.

While yes Add-Ons do help some, I find they are too much of a distraction for me. A few cosmetic changes here and there are all I wanted.

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Don’t top guild practice on the ptr for months before the raid tier comes out on live?

I think top guilds would be fine with out deadly boss mods.

Dbm is good for knowing mechanics but part of developing friendships in guilds is suffering together. And dbm doesn’t let that happen anymore.

I play a brew master and rarely do i ever purify. I just keep ISB up and ride the stagger. I’ll kite or pop defenses and maybe purify one a year hehe.

Brew master is the easiest tank to play right now. It’s easy and effective. I don’t use a stagger addon but it’s fine.

Currently i am on a new account. I start new emails and battlenet accounts so they won’t track my data.

Any ways good luck all.