It's very obvious that 99.99% of the playerbase hates this change. BFA already feels slow enough, classes aren't enjoyable, and specs are too slow. Even Fury, a spec which used to be the joke of "Just smash your keyboard" feels slow.
Raid CDs are also on GCD. When someone asks for Rallying Cry I have to wait 1.5 seconds to pop it because I just hit Bloodthirst when they asked for it. Why? Why should something as important as a Raid CD be on GCD? Or even personal CDs. Recklessness lasts 10 seconds, but I can only use it for 8 because I have to wait after using it to actually start attacking.
You claim "Fun is the only metric we care about" then change the GCD because it's the complete opposite of fun. Fun is being able to use abilities, and chain them together in quick succession. Not having to hit an ability and wait 1.5 seconds to hit another one.
This change also forced almost every single spec to stack Haste, even Warrior tanks are stacking it ffs. Because having about 25% Haste actually makes your spec feel decent to play again.
Please change or revert it already, it's not enjoyable and next to no one likes it.
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Man it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue. I even brought a feral Druid to a raid and he did very respectable dps for being dead last in the chart
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue. I even brought a feral Druid to a raid and he did very respectable dps for being dead last in the chart
Literally 0 (zero), -zero- people like the GCD change.
Proof: No one voluntarily waited 1-1.5s between using their abilities when they didn't have to.
Won't stop the blizzard fanboys from trying to defend the change though.
Proof: No one voluntarily waited 1-1.5s between using their abilities when they didn't have to.
Won't stop the blizzard fanboys from trying to defend the change though.
The buffs are hugely disappointing I agree. With subtlety rogue you pop that shadows blade move or whatever it's called that increases damage % but you want to use this move with shadow dance so you get the most out of it. This means about 2-3 seconds depending on haste are wasted because of gcd.
Edit: or you have to deal with shamans ghost wolf being on gcd. Just used a move and now you need to evacuate quick but ghost wolf is on the gcd. I found this really annoying for certain mobs in island expedition where their cast time is really quick for the aoe devestating damage they do.
Edit: or you have to deal with shamans ghost wolf being on gcd. Just used a move and now you need to evacuate quick but ghost wolf is on the gcd. I found this really annoying for certain mobs in island expedition where their cast time is really quick for the aoe devestating damage they do.
09/25/2018 09:36 PMPosted by OrthaneIt's very obvious that 99.99% of the playerbase hates this change. BFA already feels slow enough, classes aren't enjoyable, and specs are too slow. Even Fury, a spec which used to be the joke of "Just smash your keyboard" feels slow.
Raid CDs are also on GCD. When someone asks for Rallying Cry I have to wait 1.5 seconds to pop it because I just hit Bloodthirst when they asked for it. Why? Why should something as important as a Raid CD be on GCD? Or even personal CDs. Recklessness lasts 10 seconds, but I can only use it for 8 because I have to wait after using it to actually start attacking.
You claim "Fun is the only metric we care about" then change the GCD because it's the complete opposite of fun. Fun is being able to use abilities, and chain them together in quick succession. Not having to hit an ability and wait 1.5 seconds to hit another one.
This change also forced almost every single spec to stack Haste, even Warrior tanks are stacking it ffs. Because having about 25% Haste actually makes your spec feel decent to play again.
Please change or revert it already, it's not enjoyable and next to no one likes it.
Dude. Switch to decaf.
09/25/2018 09:39 PMPosted by GlumrotMan it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue
If being forced to wait to use abilities is what lets you "focus on mechanics", maybe you were never much good at focusing on mechanics in the first place.
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Congrats on saying the exact same thing I said.. yes when I said I can focus on the mechanics more that implied that I was tunneling a fast rotation.. herp derp sherlock09/25/2018 09:48 PMPosted by Cedrex09/25/2018 09:39 PMPosted by GlumrotMan it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue
If being forced to wait to use abilities is what lets you "focus on mechanics", maybe you were never much good at focusing on mechanics in the first place.
09/25/2018 09:39 PMPosted by GlumrotMan it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue. I even brought a feral Druid to a raid and he did very respectable dps for being dead last in the chart
It's 2018, the gameplay really hasn't evolved over the past decade. This change made the gameplay worse.
I'm sorry but if the lack of GCD makes you screw up your very simple rotation you're just a bad player. There's really no other explanation. The rotation and "mechanics" are already very simple.
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I pug raid lead norm raids and my guild can finish a few bosses on heroic. But yes not everyone can be a nerd and my video games skills are not up to par with yours09/25/2018 10:02 PMPosted by Défiant09/25/2018 09:39 PMPosted by GlumrotMan it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue. I even brought a feral Druid to a raid and he did very respectable dps for being dead last in the chart
It's 2018, the gameplay really hasn't evolved over the past decade. This change made the gameplay worse.
I'm sorry but if the lack of GCD makes you screw up your very simple rotation you're just a bad player. There's really no other explanation. The rotation and "mechanics" are already very simple.
I focus on real life skills like sports and skateboarding. Grats on being good at a computer game tho
I literally said I am casual and it’s better for me, and u guys are just regurgitating it back
Yep. It's still terrible.
<span class="truncated">...</span>I pug raid lead norm raids and my guild can finish a few bosses on heroic. But yes not everyone can be a nerd and my video games skills are not up to par with yours
It's 2018, the gameplay really hasn't evolved over the past decade. This change made the gameplay worse.
I'm sorry but if the lack of GCD makes you screw up your very simple rotation you're just a bad player. There's really no other explanation. The rotation and "mechanics" are already very simple.
I focus on real life skills like sports and skateboarding. Grats on being good at a computer game tho
....lol?
As to the actual topic this change hasn't hugely affected what I play but it was unneccesary and adds nothing of value to the game. But whatever, par for the expansion.
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09/25/2018 09:39 PMPosted by GlumrotMan it’s crazy how all these forums post talk about the majority or the 99%
Seriously tho gcd is great for people who want to focus on the mechanics more like me
And just because you think the game is unbalanced, the truth is it’s like 2-3k dps spread for ALL classes
I have never seen such a balanced charts and I have played since wrath
That level of balanced numbers is all possible because of the new class design and gcd change
Now pvp balance wise it’s a bit different, some classes have a much better toolkits for situations
But to say the game is unbalance pve wise is just untrue. I even brought a feral Druid to a raid and he did very respectable dps for being dead last in the chart
You need a GCD to focus on this games 'mechanics'. Lol have you played the majority of specs.... idk about you but i dont need that much time to focus on mechanics that my 9 YO cousin can do.
It's a good thing they put in these changes, Glumrot wouldn't have been able to use it as an excuse to demonstrate his superiority over other players if they hadn't.
I focus on real life skills like sports and skateboarding. Grats on being good at a computer game thogave me a good laugh
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09/25/2018 10:07 PMPosted by GlumrotI pug raid lead norm raids and my guild can finish a few bosses on heroic. But yes not everyone can be a nerd and my video games skills are not up to par with yours09/25/2018 10:02 PMPosted by DĂ©fiant...
It's 2018, the gameplay really hasn't evolved over the past decade. This change made the gameplay worse.
I'm sorry but if the lack of GCD makes you screw up your very simple rotation you're just a bad player. There's really no other explanation. The rotation and "mechanics" are already very simple.
I focus on real life skills like sports and skateboarding. Grats on being good at a computer game tho
I literally said I am casual and it’s better for me, and u guys are just regurgitating it back
You do realise you are just making an excuse for been bad?
There are people who only play 3 days per week are still pulling great dps because they spend 5mins of their time to read up some guide and watch video over boss fight.
Saying as GCD helping you focus on boss is all bs especially the fact that class are so braindead this day you don’t even need to spend hours of your time learning or optimist your rotation and your spec or even the need for marco.
I don't. Think. Blizzard. Understands. Just how. Bad. The GCD. Change. Really. Feels. When. Trying to. Play. The Game.
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09/25/2018 09:36 PMPosted by OrthaneIt's very obvious that 99.99% of the playerbase hates this change. BFA already feels slow enough, classes aren't enjoyable, and specs are too slow. Even Fury, a spec which used to be the joke of "Just smash your keyboard" feels slow.
Raid CDs are also on GCD. When someone asks for Rallying Cry I have to wait 1.5 seconds to pop it because I just hit Bloodthirst when they asked for it. Why? Why should something as important as a Raid CD be on GCD? Or even personal CDs. Recklessness lasts 10 seconds, but I can only use it for 8 because I have to wait after using it to actually start attacking.
You claim "Fun is the only metric we care about" then change the GCD because it's the complete opposite of fun. Fun is being able to use abilities, and chain them together in quick succession. Not having to hit an ability and wait 1.5 seconds to hit another one.
This change also forced almost every single spec to stack Haste, even Warrior tanks are stacking it ffs. Because having about 25% Haste actually makes your spec feel decent to play again.
Please change or revert it already, it's not enjoyable and next to no one likes it.
It’s always warriors complaining about the GCD change. I’m glad the one shot buttons have been removed.
I love it
09/25/2018 10:07 PMPosted by GlumrotI pug raid lead norm raids and my guild can finish a few bosses on heroic. But yes not everyone can be a nerd and my video games skills are not up to par with yours09/25/2018 10:02 PMPosted by DĂ©fiant...
It's 2018, the gameplay really hasn't evolved over the past decade. This change made the gameplay worse.
I'm sorry but if the lack of GCD makes you screw up your very simple rotation you're just a bad player. There's really no other explanation. The rotation and "mechanics" are already very simple.
I focus on real life skills like sports and skateboarding. Grats on being good at a computer game tho
I literally said I am casual and it’s better for me, and u guys are just regurgitating it back
It's not about my skill level, I wasn't gloating. Stop being a retard, kid. My point is that just because YOU'RE bad at a game, doesn't mean the game should be dumbed down for the rest of us that actually want to challenge ourselves.
It's sad that people like you are who Blizzard listen to though, because its' people like you that the game seems to be geared around nowadays.
Be honest with yourself, would you actually play World of Warcraft if the only level of gameplay is the casual bull!@#$ you do? Like if there wasn't the ability to push to a higher degree of difficulty, would you actually play? I'm not even that good of a player myself, I don't push Mythic raiding each expansion etc. However I'm not about to complain and defend %^-*ty ridiculous game changes just because I'm bad at the game... I wouldn't want to ruin someone elses experience. You though, you don't give a !@#$.
One reason i play wow over other mmos is the fluid relationship between your abilities and your toons animations. Using two moves together into another felt like combos. The quick changes in the animations in using x paired with y directly into a "on next refresh" move feels good.
09/25/2018 09:48 PMPosted by CedrexIf being forced to wait to use abilities is what lets you "focus on mechanics", maybe you were never much good at focusing on mechanics in the first place.
Heh, beat me to it.
This GCD thing caused me to unsub tbh
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