i know legion was a different game but with other abilities retuning off the global why were both of these ignored?
i don’t mind lust nearly as much as doomwinds but either or coming off gcd would feel great
also lust didn’t cost (horde) shaman mana for years can we agree that adding the 20% to horde was the wrong direction and alliance lust should have just been free?
PvE lust - the 40 second 30% raid-wide haste buff - is OFF GCD.
Only shamanism - the 2 person 10 second 20% haste buff - is still ON GCD.
And both versions cost the same amount of mana.
Why does shamanism cost as much mana as (plus a GCD on top of) regular bloodlust when it’s a fraction as powerful?
Being on GCD is particularly bad for shamanism since its eats a big chunk of its own benefit by costing a global given how short and minor the haste buff is.
Would also be nice if thundercharge was also taken off GCD.
I get doomwinds being on CD though since it does provide an attack that provides another melee attack that can proc WF during the buff window.
Would be nice if the doomwinds attack was AOE though so you could generate more FFW stacks off the bat in AOE settings. Or, if it the attack at least automatically proc’d windfury to get FFW rolling.
what was the point of this
are you trying to explain to me how bloodlust works LMAO?
idk if you played the game before bfa but shamanism was off gcd when it was introduced (so was doomwinds)
but put on gcd when they put most of the other offensive cds on global
a lot of those have since been taken off gcd but blood lust hasn’t
horde shamanism had a 0 mana cost from 2016->2021
alliance shamanism had always cost 20% mana
instead of removing the mana cost from alliance they added it to horde
Enhance pvp talents in general have some serious work needed. Thundercharge isnt nearly as good as people think it is and ride the lightning literally doesnt work single target for some reason even though im pretty sure it did work single target in BFA. Not sure what happened there. Shamanism isnt even worth it because you basically just make up for the 1.5 sec GCD you wasted to use it. Ethereal form is so hilariously outdated in 2022, aside from maybe warrior, is there even any class in this game that does pure physical damage? Maybe WW monk I guess?
Wasn’t directed at you.
Was just pointing out to Blizzard how shamanism gets the short end of the stick.
I know the history and I know you do too.
Also zezu, now that you are here, I’ve been wondering, does blizzard know that enhance mastery is bugged and not working with lightning lasso on the beta? Theres no way this is intended right?
I submitted a bug report for it on beta.
how long ago?
it’s bugged and double benefits the shaman
even still it’s real strength comes from getting spells like shear/pummel off script
it did yeah
ride and forked were different talents in dread season but they merged them into ride
so if it’s a single tar it procs forked on farther targets and if it qualifies it’ll proc the ride CL instead
agree that it’s dumb and would like to see static cling returned in it’s place imo
the mana cost is what really sends it over
when it was free (legion->sinful) it was worth it even on global
it felt clunky but had insane synergy with spear goes
now it’s hard to justify ever tbh
double hard when things like static field now exist that provide insane utility in it’s place
ww (non xuen/bdb)
feral
mm/bm
warrior
doomwinds enhance
outlaw
there’s a few
Even if there are a handful of phys dmg users, ethereal form is so cringe man. It just completely hard counters something like WW or warrior or outlaw but then vs others its half effectiveness and vs others its 0 effectiveness. Why?? Why not just replace it with shamanistic rage. And yes I agree static cling returning in place of ride the lightning would be a very high IQ blizzard move that they wont make.
Earlier today.
nice good stuff. Has any 1 posted about stoneskin totem being useless (especially if its on the GCD) to blizzard yet?
i don’t love the idea of having a wall usable in stuns with the current game because of the way cooldown trading works but it would be sick if they replaced it with like
old glyph of lightning shield (15% physical damage reduction when lightning shield procs)
or old glyph of shamanistic / dwarf mix where astral shift is maybe a 1 min cd that removes magic/bleeds/poisons
both are 10/10 ideas. But I would rather they follow the actual glyph of lightning shield which was 10% to all dmg rather than 15% to just phys. Shamanistic rage glyph would be sick too, maybe they could make it share a 30 sec cd with similar effects so people cant do a dwarf racial right after.
Yes. I’ve asked for it to be buffed as have others.
Take a look at the beta shaman thread.
i wonder what the best way of buffing it would be
anymore % on a 30 sec cd would be kind of too insane
10% to all damage instead of phys, taken off the GCD, and maybe make it so party members only get 10% but maybe the shaman themselves gets 15%
I suggested it be a more powerful buff on a longer CD (could be shorter duration too).
have they taken ANY suggestion from that beta thread for any node on the class tree?
General tree hasn’t changed since beta started except maybe for a round of nerfs.
Although that might have been alpha.
Enhance tree got a few tweaks.