Can we start dialing back on MS effects

So many classes in the game have MS now its actually insane. Only 2 melee do not have it, ret and enhance sham. Multiple ranged have it. Its just kind of ridiculous to have 90% of the classes in the game with MS, at that point either just give it to every class or dial it back once again and make it unique to only 1 or 2 specs at most but with maybe less uptime than 90-100% potentially.

It just doesnt feel good to play a spec or class without MS when so many classes have it at this point, felt better when it was only arms and 1 other spec like unholy dk. Can maybe be tuned better if it goes back to being unique so that it isn’t as crazy as it has been. Like why does hunter have it? Why does monk? Shadow priest?

Can maybe even talk about reducing disarms a bit more if we ever get a mobility prune to melee or something or at least putting them on a DR with something else like incap. Starting to have too many of these as well especially if any more get added.

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Sharpen Blade being removed :dracthyr_cry_animated:

Maybe this is a fried take but Warrior should bring the strong/biggest MS and they need to reduce or remove many of the other classes MS as you mention. Why did they add it to DH randomly back in shadowlands or whatever. Or rogue having it with everything else in their kit lol on top of it being passively applied

Everyone having the same MS, particularly melee, turns it into a “play with the most overtuned of those melees”

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not true its just being auto applied by the next ms after colossus smash

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oh cool, i can’t read

yeah its a pretty bad feeling imo. and now that every single melee has it aside from 2, it does not make sense for those 2 not to have it either. However instead of asking for it, I’d rather them just dial it back. I like the idea of killable MS things like psyfiend, but every melee having it be instant with a ton of uptime is a bit ridiculous. This is coming from a melee player as well. If every melee is going to have it, it should have counterability similar to shadow priest MS effect. Hunter also needs to have theres applied a different way, pets should not be applying MS imo.

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dh fury demo ms goes

Do fdk and unholy have it? I actually can’t recall off the top of my head.

Anyways give starsurge ms please kthx

yeah both dk specs have it. unholy has a better one though

agreed, it makes zero sense for only 2 melee specs to not have it. and agreed id rather start taking it away from some specs than to give it to them too (even tho i play one of em).

For one, they should absolutely take it away from rogue. Rogue already is the king of CC and arena control, it should absolutely need to pair with a particular class/spec to get access to ms. I would also remove it from hunters, I really don’t think any ranged classes should have it, but especially since theirs is auto tied to their pet (other than new MM but that should go too)

Also, warrior should have the best one due to it being the og, but not to any crazy degree, it shouldnt feel like its the only option.

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I just wanna hear the slop arguments on why ret and enhance dont deserve to get ms

I liked sl where rets are like if ret is so good why doesn’t it have a healing reduction despite having like 30% more output than other specs to compensate this

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? Neither DK has a mortal strike effect.

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Rogue has it, but it’s reduced to varying degrees or applied via shiv. Demo felguard is reduced effectiveness.

Frost doesn’t have one. Unholy has a unique stacking (with standard healing reduction) one that’s kind of bad.

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Give a 30% MS to Arms Warriors and a 10-15% MS AOE to a Ranged Class (probably MM Hunters). Remove MS from the rest of the specs…

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Trueeeeee. :dracthyr_love_animated:

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only classes that should have MS is arms warrior and marks hunter and it should be 50% MS

Whats up with “muh arms needs to be the ms spec” then they go back to being absolutely BiS

arms will never be bis as long as they can be perma rooted

Lots of specs csn be perma rooted snd that has nothing to do with having ms or not

How many of them are true melee though

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