Can we revert Disc Voidweaver's unnecessary 8.5% nerf?

Early in the tier Voidweaver caught a stray 8.5% HPS nerf that was targeted at Oracle.

It hurt Voidweaver more than Oracle but Oracle was the spec they were trying to nerf. As a result we all know this was a completely tone-deaf nerf because it wasn’t going to solve any problems.

Now Voidweaver is just suffering unnecessarily. Can we get this reverted since clearly we can see now after weeks of that nerf existing that this was not where the issues were and it resolved nothing?

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I have to wonder if the only reason they did that was because they were too worried it might touch Holy if they hit the Hero Talents

Voidweaver disc is certainly in a bad spot in raid and M+. Of the top keys, VW is ranked 3rd from last of all hero specs for all healers. The hero tree needs some buffs since buffing the base kit of the spec would also buff oracle.

Voidweaver is my Delve spec now, it’s actually insane in that environment. I’ll probably kill Underpin as Voidweaver.

It’s not terrible in raid, I had a guildie running it and he was pumping, but it’s no where near Oracle Holy. I never liked VW in M+, that’s the entire reason I even went Oracle Disc in the first place, but I don’t play Disc anymore.

It would be lovely to revert nerfs on VW disc. I only play it in mythic+ and I am being stubborn about it this season as I don’t like change. I will get around to getting 3k on it, I am pretty close already, but I stopped because I was tired of the struggle in pugs. So, once turbo is live I will knock out the last couple 13s I need and call it good.

They can adjust the talents independently for holy and disc. They do it for many other classes, they’ve even done it for shadow voidweaver this patch.

They nerfed voidweaver specifically because oracle is the only priest hero spec they put any effort into and they really want people to play it after it had like a 0.01% play rate in season 1.

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They need to bring them in line with each other. Two different healing styles, the player should be able to choose which one they like best without being at a significant disadvantage.

This right here actually. I won’t be shocked if vw doesn’t see any love until next season or later because of it. People using oracle for disc and holy now when it was massively noped out of the gate at the start of the expansion.

I’ve been running holy oracle for the past month because it gives me a few more buttons to press. Blasting out PoMs is fun.

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I’m not saying it isn’t. I’m only saying that Blizzard is aware that voidweaver significantly underperforms oracle for discipline, and deliberately nerfed generic discipline tools instead of nerfing oracle itself so that oracle gets played. There is no other reason to have nerfed discipline the way they chose to without giving voidweaver actual compensatory buffs rather than a token buff that doesn’t affect balance in any way.

Blizzard loves oracle. They care about archon and voidweaver about as much as they care about holy, shadow, and core priest class.

I get what you’re saying. Archon just seems boring to me now when I switch back, except in delves, I have enough to worry about there with mind control.

For holy, in raid, they’re about the same performance wise.

I don’t play disc, but hopefully voidweaver is brought in line if there is disparity. :heart:

There is definitely a large disparity between the two trees in both M+ and Raid. It is pretty large as well. I believe oracle is also the PvP dominant spec as well.

I’ve played disc since Eternal Palace. I loved how they finally baked some of the buttons together instead of us clicking 50 things after we ramped to make the damage actually go brr. You still have to understand your ramps to play the class, so I don’t understand why they felt the need to punish VW so badly.

I’ve been playing oracle since it does so much more healing, but I swear I’m getting Kyrian Disc PTSD. Lol.

Yeah the nerfs were definitely not aimed at VW but VW almost got hit harder than Oracle. Probably so since VW was already significantly behind oracle. They just need to buff up some areas of the VW tree. Probably Inner Quietus to give VW some of its lost shield power from Weal and Woe back since VW shields were never an issue. Could probably buff Voidheart or Entropic Rift/Void Blast to push up the heal numbers. I would prefer them buff Entropic/Void Blast as that fits with the design of VW.

If they get them closer then people can choose the style that fits them. If you want something reminiscent of big shield disc from the past you play Oracle. If you want to lean into atonement and doing more damage you play VW. Right now you are just punished for liking VW as it is way behind in raid and in M+ I believe it is the 3rd worst hero spec in M+ top keys.

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Well so much for VW getting its nerf reverted. Paying that oracle tax.