Green skinned, but I get your point. This is however, how it played out canonicly. No ifs or buts. The orcs were monsters, because they were portrayed like that. I don’t blame you if you dislike that portrayal, but don’t conflate real history with a shoddily written video game, because in the later, anything is possible, and things are often without nuance.
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And yet, we are still faced with the material reality that neither camps, nor slavery, nor genocide, nor nukes are ever morally licit.
Ever.
In any universe.
I gave an example of what the Alliance could’ve tried with a comparable example due to social framing within history.
Alliance could’ve figured it out. But that ain’t my job.
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Your wrong. There was no alternate solution other then the camps, that would have protected innocent life. They could have mass murdered them, but that would be immoral.
Yes the Alliance could have let the Orcs go, but demon blood drugged orcs would go back to killing.
Really the Orcs under demon blood, can not be compared to any irl human group.
Sounds like you have more issues with the Horde than the Alliance.
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I’m not sure I really agree.
Prison is a kind of internment camp. Societies build prisons pretty much to house people who the society can’t tolerate. Most of us here would not disagree with the idea that such is where we should put murderers for murder - to get them off the streets.
As I stated in the other thread - the moral outrage of an internment camp - such as the ones that the US set up for its west coast Japanese population is that it assigns the sins of one to another who didn’t deserve it on the basis of a set of immutable characteristics - and even then, we can acknowledge that the US Internment camps do not occupy the same moral plane as a German concentration camp or to the expressly-purposed death camp. But both of these examples still don’t end up applying because in this case - every potential assignee to those internment camps was there for the same reason the demonic army was. So even that doesn’t apply.
This is why our attempt to understand the event within our own historical experience doesn’t work. The narrative put in facts to make it not work.
Now, does the ability to morally defend the internment itself also carry to all acts committed against the interred? No, but that conversation is a separate one from the acts of internment themselves.
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Your example doesn’t work, because the real life situation you describe didn’t involve a population who were all affected by a permanent state of psychotic bloodlust, brought about by a certain substance, in this case demon blood. It took years for that state of being to dissapear from the orcs, when they went cold turkey. Had they been allowed to roam free, they would have remained in that state, possibly until they all died in battle. Hardly a superior proposition.
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Oh for sure but yall don’t get to say “our war crimes are okay, morally licit, and even good because you war crimed first uwu”
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No, but we merely said from a STORY perspective, it’s understandable why the alliance acts the way it does.
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And understanding isn’t the same as condoning. I know that’s not an easy concept to grasp for some. But nuance does exist.
For that matter sympathizing isn’t even the same condoning. I’m a sucker for a good Sympathetic Villain in video games or other media. But it doesn’t mean I condone their actions.
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Exactly, but it’s hard to see it that way, when someone is quick to see racists everywhere they look.
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It’s a side effect of only listening to media that agrees with you or reinforces your own bias. People need to force themselves to hear the other side and take into consideration where they’re coming from and what has lead them to believe what they do. No matter how vehemently you disagree with it.
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As a night elf fan I would say no.
Malfurion rivals Muradin as one of my favorite Characters. Though Rezan is working his way through Voljin to be my favorite Golden Dino Troll Dude.
But Malfurion didn’t like the idea of Teldrasil. He was against it. Maybe his main squeeze changed his mind afterward… but I see why he was against it. Seeing all this angst makes me see Malfurion as all the wiser.
Malfurion said no to Teldrasil before the Horde made it cool. As a Night Elf fan - I like that.
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I like the implication that Malf has a side hustle…
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I mean, he had to get those antlers from somewhere 
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There’s a reason he spends so much time in the dream. 
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This sounds like activity for which Malfurion should be filing a Schedule C, where he wouldn’t be able to deduct anything because the nature of his business activity is technically illegal.
Got to love the public policy exception.
<Stares pointedly at the OP. >
Wait a second.
<Tears off Baalsamael’s mask, revealing Sylvanas Windrunner!>
<Tears off Micah’s mask, revealing Nathanos Blightcaller!>
This explains so much!
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Gave me a chuckle. Thanks 
As someone who was done drag in the past, I am getting ideas 