In-game and on these forums people speak as if somehow Sylvanas was stopped the world will be at peace.
If Sylvanas just walks down some stairs and accidently tumbles down the stairs into a furnace suddenly the war would stop and both factions would be joining hands and sing kumbaya and live happily ever after.
BFA needs to introduce a permanent solution to the Horde. Something needs to change to reasonably explain why yet another Horde leader doesn’t commit yet another genocide to the shock and awe of the entire planet.
Its not like these Horde leaders are immediately captured and executed either.
They are fully supported for months or years until suddenly it is no longer convenient.
Can this idiotic narrative please stop?
Sylvanas isn’t acting alone. She is supported by the Horde and will continue to be supported until it is no longer convenient. Just like Garrosh.
So what makes this time any different?
If I remember correctly, there was a lot of complaining about how Garrosh got saddled with all of the blame for the horde after SoO.
My guess is that Blizzard’s way to “fix” this is to have the game go out of its way to specifically blame Sylvanas for everything, because they want her to take the blame too without it sounding out of left field.
i’ll do a rundown of the PRE BFA horde leaders and races:
-Lorthermar doesnt give a damn about the nelves that kicked his race out, never has. Belves are pretty chill with the draenei as of late.
-Saurfang and the orcs like fighting but also just wanted to stop commiting genocides (and failed, which i grant to you)
-Baine is bffs with Anduin.
-Trolls dont have a leader rn but im sure nagas and murlocs are higher on their list atm.
-Gobs and Gallywix only care about moolah so its a coin flip honestly.
-Mayla was basically riding Baine’s coat tails
-The pandaren are non existant, but i doubt they were foaming at the mouth for some carnage.
-Thalyssra and the NB wanted to be defenders of azeroth.
-Sylvanas ruined the first chance for undead and humans to reconcile
(Its almost like i can pin this entire mess on Sylvanas. )
Thats why ppl assume the logic used with Garrosh will apply here, and i cant blame them.
AS FOR RIGHT NOW, well idk really, apparently only 5 ppl on the horde know Teldrassil happened and only 2 of those care. The topic is clearly being avoided and it wouldnt surprise me if a lot of nelves found a secret backdoor before getting turned to ashes so that Saurfang and the horde at large are no longer tainted forever.
You must be mistaken, I don’t think she is an oddity. I just think she is another purple-loot-pinata. The world would arguably be better off without her and her band of krokodil addicts.
How do you convince the ingame Alliance of that though? At this point the only option is war until both factions run out of steam only to resume when they are fresh again.
We don’t need to do that, we can just pull a second war shenanigan, someone kill her in a makgora and continue the war, like Orgrin did with Blackhand, but now without being a red scourge
Problem is that whatever she does is being done by the Horde.
Its not like she is running around all by herself doing everything that is supposedly evil.
The Horde is doing it for her. They are completely fine in supporting her until it is no longer convenient.
So how can we just blame her when the entirety of the Horde is equally complicit in everything she does?
Its like this.
You see your boss murder somebody. If you keep helping him then you are guilty by association. If you try to stop him personally or call the cops you are in the clear.
Its pretty much the same here. At this point the Horde is the personal chauffeur of Sylvanas as she goes around on her murder spree.
Besides, is only due to meta knowledge that we know EVERYTHING will be fine at the end of the day. To the ppl ingame there is a very “real” risk their world or their faction ends next week.
Not to mention the looming threat of the old gods, mama naga, and Magni telling us our BS is literally killing the planet.
Replacing Sylvanas doesnt mean that the Horde will no longer be a threat though.
They will always be a threat for as long as they exist as an organization.
So why should the Alliance ever have peace with the Horde?
This is not the first time we have been down this road.
That end rly good actually, Orgrin manged to kill the shadow council, force gul’dan to submission, by diplomacy ally with trolls and goblins and almost won the second war.
Most of the things we know as world end threats they don’t know too, or don’t care, so?
a permanent solution for the horde? that doesn’t sound super foreboding at all, but in all seriousness the horde doesn’t answer to the alliance nor does the alliance have a monopoly on morality, we will most likely take windrunner out as war chief and be done with the matter, narratively the alliance isn’t really in a position for a permanent solution as you put it anyway the war would just continue indefinitely until both sides were too exhausted to continue.
I wouldn’t call Turalyon 1v1ing Orgrim, putting a good chunk of the orc race in cages and scattering the horde to the winds “rly good”
I think you missed the part were i mentioned that according to Magni, the planet will literally die if we continue fighting when there is a sword stuck on the planet
idk how anyone is going to end anyone at this point the horde has a lot of ground troops supposedly and no way to move them(we needed a navy because we apparently forgot that telemancy is a thing and we have the race that literally invented it one our team) and the alliance has a massive unstoppable navy now but not enough ground troops to launch a full scale invasion of kalimondor. what do we do when neither side has the means to end the other? stare angrily at the ocean or perhaps send angry messages in a bottle?
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