Nobody liked this change, it actively makes resource management harder than it already was, and it makes the spec miserable when it happens at bad times, aka often.
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“It will make it easier for new players”
We dont need these soft new players. Tell them to play Ret 
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Make the talent node a choice node, where one version will auto use, and the other version on use only. It’s such a simple fix that makes everyone happy.
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While were at it make tea not give mastery at all anymore and tune specs around that or even better maybe just delete tea all together
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Thistle tea should not be a mastery buff or damage buff at all. It should be what it is, an energy regen skill. As long as it has a damage modifier tied to it, it will continue to be used for that alone in most cases like how sub just macros it into dance.
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It’d be kind of interesting to see a talent which converted Crimson Vial into Thistle Tea and removed its energy cost, causing “Crimson Vial” (now Thistle Tea) to restore 100 energy over 4 seconds.
The Rogue loses the ability to heal itself, but i gains access to a powerful energy regeneration mechanic.
Just a thought.
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Kinda easy to make 2 options like Shadow Crash from priest (mouse or target) and Shaman Earthquake.
One use when you want, one use when you hit 30 energy.
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Just remove it. Every single one of you not requesting that is just accepting lazy dev work.
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I kind of like not having to worry about Thistle Tea on my bars.
Then again, I’m playing Trickster Outlaw.
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And could have something better instead of Tea. Stop the apathy.
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If it’s mandatory in order to play the class then it has no right being called an option.
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Yeah you can shut up now.
Ok lil guy what are you butt hurt about now?
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Just make the rotation fill your energy bar if you do it right and swap the Thistle Tea talent with a basic mastery buff on a short cooldown.
No worries they should add this soon I already quit Rogue.
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We could get something way cooler than that. Its the Sin branch, put in a poison that spreads itself and grants mastery or crit dam or something.
Best solution is to make it a choice node between auto and non-auto and remove the Mastery buff to switch that over to Shiv. This has been suggested ALOT since before TWW even went live, no idea why they won’t just do it, it caters to every audience.
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I agree, that way Thistle Tea becomes more of a nice thing to have, rather than a MUST have for dmg.
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i think thats a bad idea, at least moving the mastery buff over to shiv. shiv is so OP at this point it might as well be a borrowed power, at least for assa. you have improved shiv, lightweight shiv, tiny toxic blade, arterial precision all serving as shiv modifiers + the passive ability of applying a stronger crippling poison + all other poisons (4 poisons if you have DTB) and removing enrage. last thing shiv needs is another talent baked into it.
I think they should make it a choice node where non-auto is 100 energy + mastery buff on a 1min cd with 3 charges vs auto is 150 energy on a 45s cd with 3 charges (or some variation of inc energy regen + shorter cd with 3/4 charges.)
you can pick if you want more energy regen to be spammy (outlaw), or you can pick more timed uses of it with a damage buff (sub/assa).
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Just delete it. Stop writing think pieces on how to change an ability that never should have been brought back in the first place.
Fix it BlizZard with a choice node.
That is what we want. 
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