I agree with this 100%. I used to love classic because I just added people by their player tags. Why was this preferred? Why isn’t this the norm today? Instead its almost forced to add the btag if you had a good time. But now it comes to no surprise people aren’t so easily adding everyone they had a good time playing with, it has to be a great time. I sometimes show up offline because I don’t want to play a certain class or role. I know I will be asked to play if so. This is just one thing that makes me think about sending btags out. And then there is whole websites that know every gd stat about me and I have even hid some of those things on some websites. Why am I having to go to a 3rd party website to hide information about achievements? Does this seem odd for a video game??? I know I am the same way though with other players if I feel I am outplayed I will validate myself by using something like checkpvp to say well dude has way more xp then me. SMH don’t like how I can’t just be a player anymore I gotta have this bnet btag social achievement mess forced on me.
Well, this thread was quite the pointless roller coaster.
nobody can use ANY pixel information to harm you.
they just can’t.
meanwhile, you want to call other people delusional?
I’ll trust my own experiences over your feelings or opinions regarding that topic.
and yet… you refuse to give any sort of reasoning beyond “trust me bro”.
sounds legit.
I am sorry to hear someone used your alts to harass you in WoW. Blizzard does have an Ongoing Harassment report option here on the website ticket system to address that. You need to put the person on Ignore, and then if they go around that - document document document! Then send in a ticket.
I think what Nobully is trying to say is that our WoW characters are fake. They have no connection to our real life personal information or real life activities (not unless someone use their real name to name one). Nobody can get private information about a person via the WoW interface.
What they can do is use WoW as a channel to communicate things that may be vile - and that is where Ignore and Ongoing Harassment comes in. If someone you know in real life is using WoW as a way to reach you and harass you (like an ex) then you would want to use the tools in place to block their access to you. Again, Blizzard can and will help with that if they are evading Ignore. They also work with law enforcement if a real life person is using Blizzard platforms to harass someone - despite the tools in place.
Hopefully you were able to resolve any harassment issues you had.
I looked also and only a few of my alts are there. But if you search for each of your alts there, I do believe they will then show up.
Dear, I’ve told you:
“if they are delusional and insane enough: They can use said information to harm you.”
That’s just how it is.
You’re very sheltered if you don’t understand that simple concept.
A horrible person can, and will, do horrible things towards his/her target: when possible.
I’ve already done all of above.
If they are insane enough, they can track patterns, too.
It’s really a matter of what kind of person you come across, how disturbed they are.
It was resolved, blizzard banned the person and - from my understanding - left him with an investigation to process.
The issue is tho, people shouldn’t have to “opt out”, it should be “opt in” for any information spread about you, no matter how “Harmless” it can seem.
Glad things got taken care of!
I think the sticking point here may come off as semantics - but our characters are not considered “us”. They are Blizzard’s information to with as they wish - including allowing third party sites to create data displays from that information via the API.
The game developer point of view is that those webites are formed to support in-game activities like PvP. They are Community creations that build more community within the specific game activity and encourage people to play it.
Some other examples are things like El’s Anglin, Petopia, Undermine Journal. Each has different audiences and there is a community built around them for that interest.
That there are horrible people who use any method possible to contact you and harass you sucks though. That had to be very very scary and upsetting.
I DO think they could do a better job of guiding folks through the Privacy options at startup and letting them know how/where to turn some things off. The Real Life Privacy options ARE turned on by default - just to get that out there. They actually doubled down on that recently due to laws stating that if minors can access a platform, it needs to be set to max default privacy for real life info.
Yeah, that’s nice said and all - but I still hold firm; It should be opt in — not opt out.
Then people can choose whether they want to be part of it all or not, and you run less risks of stalking being possible.
They have to find the poor people so they can discriminate. It’s tradition. “Look at all those late-start people, lol! What’s the matter, can’t afford to pay for a run? Can’t afford the super premium deluxe epic edition?”
There… is.
it’s so cute how you keep claiming i’m “sheltered”, when you very clearly know nothing about my life.
because just like we’ve been explaining, my pixels don’t tell you anything about my life.
if what you claim is true, it would be not only wildly inappropriate for you to keep this information to yourself, it’s also apparently dangerous, to everyone.
you are putting everyone in danger, by failing to share this information which is putting us all at risk.
You’re putting in emotion into this argument. A lot of it.
I’ve told you countless times why: and you refuse to acknowledge it.
“Nobully”, you’re sincerely out of my range of discussion and patience.
Best of luck tho, and hope you never get stalked, harassed or otherwise worse things <3
aaand back to the “trust me bro”.
Honestly, it sounds like you’ve just waaaaaay overshared stuff which you shouldn’t, and you want to blame it on the API, or publicly available information.
Otherwise, like I said, it would be dangerous for you to not let people know how their personal information is at risk.
But it’s not.
So you can’t.
Calling people delusional, then running away, doesn’t educate anyone on these alleged real world dangers which you’re claiming.
So I’ll be the first to admit; I probably wouldn’t have seen this as a big issue, until recently on Classic.
I’d been fairly new to playing a Warrior and was a fresh lvl 60, so was still just figuring things out. I’m also very skittish about what sorts of things I download onto my PC, and the Warcraft-Logs addons does not appear to be super trustworthy, from a cybersecurity standpoint, so I refuse to download it.
Well, because I ran a few pugs when I first hit 60, my parses were obviously trash. But because I don’t have this third-party addon, which isn’t available on the Curseforge platform (which has much more clear permissions), I’m basically “stuck” with people only seeing the awful parses I ran when I first hit 60.
I’m not so much worried that I don’t get invited to some groups (kind of a bummer, but I get it), but I’ve had a few pretty hateful messages because of it, which even if I was still that bad would seem pretty inappropriate, but it just feels like there are people who take that site as “ammo for belittling others”.
Short story is;
I totally see the need for some privacy options. Being able to hide certain things, even if people know you’re hiding them, should at least cut down on some of the cyber-bullying that occurs.
(btw; kudos to Warcraft Logs’ support team, I was able to reach out and they were manually able to “hide” my character after messaging them, without requiring the addon or anything)
I think some of you need to go here and read, carefully…
Where? link the post.
I’d suggest starting with scrolling to the bottom part of “Teaching your children how to be safe online”.
…because I have a massive hunch that the people screaming “DANGER DANGER!” have willingly overshared.
Blizzard can’t protect people from their own actions.
I mean… we’ve even seen posts from people who go around adding STRANGERS to their RealID.
…and people who use their real world names as their Btag.
Then they want to pretend that it’s Blizzard sharing information?