Can we get more info on porting people out of Silithus during the opening events?

Retrovertigo-mankrik · July 24, 2020, 12:18pm

Because as it currently stands, this honestly is one of the most disappointing changes that has been introduced. The entire point of this event is for everyone on the server to be involved, whether you are doing anything to help with the gong or not. You should be able to help other people, engage in PvP, or just go to the zone and watch the action unfold. Simply not allowing people to zone in and play the game is ridiculous.

What kind of numbers are we talking about here for how many people will be allowed in? And is this faction based or what? Some servers have tremendous faction imbalances so how will that work if there is significantly more alliance players for example.

I feel like most people would rather deal with the lag and chaos and actually be in the zone and have some fun with the event as opposed to this weird change to force people out, not to mention the fact that there is always the possibility that things will bug/glitch and people that shouldn’t get ported out will end up being moved out and locked out of the zone for too long etc.

Jaundissimoe-proudmoore · July 24, 2020, 12:26pm

You can be invovled from Ungoro crater or Tanaris. Who says the war has to be contained to just one zone?

Is it not more ridiculous to just let the servers crash, so NO ONE at all can play?

I don’t know about you, but there’s nothing fun about lagging out and waiting 10 minutes for my ability to actually work.

Anything can bug out, we shouldn’t design things around the possibility tht it can “bug out”.

All in all, I am looking forward to this event. I made sure to choose a smaller pop server so that I could enjoy stuff like this. If you flocked to a mega server, that’s a decision you made, and one of the consequences is that you might not get to enjoy events with high traffic players as much, due to the lag.

Anyways, have some fun during the event Retrovertigo!

Bunsz-kromcrush · July 24, 2020, 12:28pm

I’m curious what’s to prevent mega guilds from logging everyone out at Silithus the previous week and logging in on patch day.

They could hypothetically lock down the entire zone couldn’t they?

Retrovertigo-mankrik · July 24, 2020, 12:40pm

I’m not going to respond to everything here, but there are plenty of people who rolled on low pop servers who are now playing on high pop servers because of free/paid transfers. So that is kind of a pointless thing to bring up. The real issue is that blizzard has been unable to provide stable servers while allowing them to become so large in number of players. And now they are forced to make unfavorable choices because of the way they handled the population issues.

Ziryus-doomhammer · July 24, 2020, 12:52pm

I’m willing to bet the people who feel that way were not people who actually experienced it during the original event.

Bonerover-stormreaver · July 24, 2020, 3:00pm

That didn’t happen at all in Vanilla. This is about the be just as big as a disappointment as the rest of the game so far.

Ziryus-doomhammer · July 24, 2020, 3:04pm

Less disappointing than server crashes and other issue

Qpon-smolderweb · July 24, 2020, 5:52pm

I just want to know what happens if you try to log into Silithus or take a fight path there when it’s capped. Does it port you to your hearth location? Because that would be REALLY annoying, particularly for anyone with their hearth set to kargath/IF.

Tarrasque-kirtonos · July 24, 2020, 5:58pm

Sure, here you go:

AQ Expectations

As we approach the content unlock next week that will begin the events around the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj, we’ve seen several questions from players about precisely how many aspects of the events are going to work. What follows is a rundown of some of the those details.

Spoiler alert! If you’ve been hoping to experience the AQ events for the first time in-game, turn back now!

The Calendar
First and foremost, we have the exact time of the content unlock. This will occur with the weekly raid reset in each region, because the content involves Blackwing Lair. In this region, the content will unlock on:

July 28 at 9:00 a.m. PDT / 12:00 Noon EDT

July 29 at 2:00 a.m. AEST / 4:00 a.m. NZST

This is the time when the War Effort will begin and each faction can turn in immense amounts of supplies that, once completed, will require five days to be transported to Silithus. Due to the raid requirements in the quest chain leading up to the “Bang A Gong!” quest, the earliest that the gong-ringing can occur in Silithus on highly-motivated realms will be just over a week later.

Once the gong is rung on a realm, the 10 Hour War begins. Once the 10 hours has elapsed, "Bang a Gong!” can never be turned in anymore, the two Ahn’Qiraj raids will open, and the “Treasures of the Timeless One” quest will become available.

The exact times for the ringing of the gong, and therefore the raids opening 10 hours later, will differ on every realm.

Becoming the Scarab Lord

Ringing the gong can only be done by players who have completed all of the steps of the Scepter of the Sands quest chain before the end of the 10-hour window. In addition to raid requirements, players are able to use the Proxy of Nozdormu to deputize other players to help them amass Silithid Carapace Fragments, so this is likely a guild-wide effort to help a chosen individual complete the quest chain.

Only the first player on a realm to ring the gong will be announced across the zone in Silithus. On realms that have multiple layers, once the gong is rung on one layer, the 10 Hour War will begin on all layers. All players who complete the questline and turn in “Bang a Gong!” before the 10 hours are up will receive the Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal mount. Any player who completes the questline up through “The Might of Kalimdor” will be eligible for “Treasures of the Timeless One,” which rewards an Epic weapon, regardless of whether they were able to complete “Bang a Gong!” in time.

Some Restrictions Apply

In original WoW, the Scarab Lord wasn’t used as a title, and that will be the case in WoW Classic. The ability for players to manage their titles came after original WoW.

During the 10 Hour War, world bosses do not only spawn in Silithus. Resonating Crystals that spawn major enemies will appear in Tanaris, Feralas, Thousand Needles, and Barrens. This is important to know because we expect there to be an overcrowding issue in Silithus on realms whenever large groups of players all go to Silithus at the same time. While the negative effects of overcrowding can’t be eliminated, we’re taking several steps to mitigate the worst outcomes:

Thanks to players who helped us test on the PTR in June, we can support a higher number of players in the zone than we could before.

Those PTR tests also helped us determine the maximum number of players that can be supported before “a little laggy” became “unplayable.”

If the maximum is reached, players will be automatically removed from the zone.

First, players will be removed if they are below level 60. Alliance players will be ported to Westfall, and Horde players will be ported to The Barrens.

Level 60 players who are ported out will be moved to to Un’goro Crater, Tanaris, Thousand Needles, or The Barrens.

If Silithus is at max population, a level 60 player can only zone in when another player leaves Silithus.

Players who have a Scepter will never be automatically removed from Silithus.

Zone maximums and automatic adjustments are per-layer.

There are restrictions on realm-to-realm character transfers, which are in place to prevent players of a different realm from coming to your realm and disrupting the progress of events. The quest “Bang a Gong!” cannot be completed by characters who transferred to the realm in the past 90 days, however, those players can complete “Treasures of the Timeless One”. Before the end of the 10 Hour War on a realm, there are also other restrictions on transfers for characters who have participated in significant event activities elsewhere. For example, players cannot transfer a character that has Silithus Carapace Fragments in their bags or bank.

And Then…

The initial War Effort requires a great deal of supplies to be turned in by your faction on your realm. If this is not complete 30 days after the content is unlocked, small amounts of supplies will begin turning in automatically, as they did in the version 1.12 of original WoW. The gates still require somebody to “Bang a Gong!”, but this will help ensure that all realms have the chance to unlock Ahn’Qiraj before Naxxramas is released.

We’re very excited to follow the unfolding events on WoW Classic realms around the world over the next few weeks. We’ll see you in Silithus!

Bearhands-faerlina · July 24, 2020, 6:00pm

Naw, I’m ok with it. Yall just looking for something else to cry about, as per usual

Zevri-windseeker · July 24, 2020, 8:05pm

Anyone who expects 45 pages of legal nonsense, describing every possible situation (no matter how unlikely) and promising exactly what will happen to every player in that situation…

…is playing the wrong game. We didn’t get that much detail about ANYTHING for the last 16 years.

The blue post gave us MORE info that usual from Blizzard. Anyone who asks for even more is just trolling, I think.

Honestly, I can’t even PLAY the game with only the info that Blizzard supplies. I have been using wowhead and icy-veins and reddit and other fan websites to get information for the last 16 years.

Nightcrawlr-mankrik · July 24, 2020, 9:08pm

You make an interesting point.

But most mega guilds arent’ that coordinated and have a ton of in group fighting. Most mega guilds only have one legit raid team. The rest of them are just an elaborate bench system with very high turn over rate.

Shikaro-perenolde · August 5, 2020, 6:42am

This in practice blows… the husk quests show a level 51 requirement in the zone and since only lvl 60s are permitted in the zone it makes it impossible for someone who is say, level 58 (almost 59) to complete those quests.

Bbut-aerie-peak · December 26, 2020, 2:03am

This change about Silithus is not only disappointing, it is there worst change I’ve seen at Battlenet. it keeps getting worse. And the sad thing is we have to pay for it. Not for long!!!