hello, friend… i just wanted to come by and share my opinion on the topic of this thread.
i have had some time to think about it and i still believe that account wide ignore is not a good thing… account wide ignore really will just not be healthy for the forum community, in my polite opinion.
i would like to thank everyone for giving me a chance to share my opinion.
hope you all have a lovely day today 
it was a good thread…once. lol
almost productive.
So decided to respond to this to iterate on my post a bit more to you… if you still for some reason saying “But Hwan! what if you do care about the people you have ignored?” then I don’t know whats convincing you at this point.
As the header says it all, whenever I put someone on Ignore, I don’t have the interest of interacting with them or harassing me, I also just don’t care about the individual that I have ignored.
You might say that I might care, actually I don’t and I will keep saying it to you till ends of the earth to say that I don’t care about the individual and their alts on here in this site, you also might say I could go harass someone that I have ignored, witch hunt, blacklist them or whatever is harassment these days which will lead to my next point…
Pretty much every company that offers an online service where people can chat with each other does take harassment seriously (depends on what company your talking about).
Blizzard for instance does and if I will were to harass or witch hunt a couple of people, eventually I will get caught one day and whatever Blizzard has found within investigating, I could be suspended here, some specific game(s) that I harassed and witched hunt in or in a rare case, my entire account would be deleted.
Listen, I care about not getting suspended or having my account getting deleted because of the stuff I have collected on this account (such as cosmetics, Heroes in HOTS, some things in WoW etc) or the amount of time I have invested into those games would all be gone if I would to partake in serious harassment and witch hunts. If people like me care about their accounts, they wouldn’t even getting the thought of harassing or witch hunting multiple people, their not willing to take the risk.
The whole reasoning against account wide is overblown, because I simply don’t care about the individual that I have ignored, I don’t care about their alts, I’m not going to dig through this site to find somone;s alts. Harassment and Witch hunting is actionable and often it can lead to severe repercussions if caught.
If this does not convince you then I don’t know what is.
I think that you might be missing the point that there are some elements of this forum that clearly ARENT healthy to begin with. Thus this topic being made.
Moderation has a couple choices…keep watch over this forum like a daycare center…OR…give us a tool to wipe out 90% of the problems here.
A two way, facebook/twitter block allows us not to see the person…and them not to see our posts so they can keep disrupting the thread and get it locked down…yet again.
We cant even get a block from those who claim they want the block here lol.
If THEY wont do it, then Id like the ability to do it myself.
If we have the twitter/facebook style block then the trolling issue is nearly destroyed because you dont have to look at them and they cant look at you.
Win/win.
hello friend, i have seen this comment and i would like to politely add my own comment to it, if that is ok with you?
i think that account wide ignore is just not a good system for the forums.
the wow forums are very special and unique because the forum users are able to post on their characters which share a world with all the other forum users on the wow forums. so, unlike the other blizzard forums, which have no shared world such as Heroes of the Storm, the wow forums are much different.
when you think of the characters on the forums as inhabiting a shared world within the game of World of Warcraft, then you can see where account wide ignore could possibly run into some issue such as invasion of privacy.
thank you so much for listening to my opinion and i am so glad that we had this discussion together
I thought this person was going to put the thread on mute
That mute lasted all of 30 seconds.
oh i was going to put this thread on mute but then i decided that there are still some very important issues to discuss here under the account-wide ignore thread.
i would like to just very politely share my opinion that adding an account-wide ignore feature on the wow forums will lead to issues relating to invasion of privacy in regards to the users on the wow forums.
i have read through all of ardmccloud’s very polite and intelligent posts here on the thread for account wide ignore.
after reading ard’s facts regarding account wide ignore, i think that i politely have to simply disagree with you on this topic.
Definitely agree.
No one is going to miss much in here because of a dozen posters who have them blocked.
Look at all the discussion going on outside this thread. 99% of the members here arent interested in this thread…or the dozen others…literally at all.
That percent, most of the forum here, isnt going to block someone just because someone is afraid of it. Its not going to happen. There will be no blackout as some fear.
All the account wide block will do is allow us more control over threads being locked or not at the end of it.
Its really funny but facebook, twitter, and a ton of other sites have the same kind of blocks in place and they dont seem to be going out of business.
18 years Ive been running forums. Not one single complaint about how the ignores work (total block, including PMs).
It would save moderation a lot of baby sitting in here if WE have the handle on our blocking ability.
but then, Im for two way facebook/twitter type blocks, so…
i would like to share my opinion here and my genuine opinion that account wide ignore is simply not very good for the wow forums.
Damn, that is more than Ards mute
and you have. I personally havent asked you not to OR…as some…attacked you for your views.
And Im certain you are ok with me sharing mine with you in here.
I think the main disagreement I have with Ards perspective is I dont believe that said blocks are going to cause any blackouts/blacklisting in here specifically. Even a two way block.
There just arent that many posters in here who even care about this issue, otherwise this thread would be seeing a lot more names posting in here than the usual dozen or so that account nearly for all sides of the discussion, lol.
I am getting curious as I read the last posts when this sort of thing kicks in and becomes actionable, however…
- Making non-constructive posts
seeing quite a bit of that…and tons of this thru the thread here yet again
- Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
Ard…and yourself…may end up appreciating being able to have a better block if and when we get it, if for nothing else just to not have to deal with those two items.
of course, i believe that is the best part of a public forum, allowing everyone to share their opinions without fear of arbitrary reprisal.
i welcome your opinions, i am glad that you were so kind as to share them with me… because when people share their opinions, they each get a chance to learn from the other… and i think that is just absolutely wonderful.
I believe that in principle…‘freedom of speech’…but there is a problem that is caused by the inherent personality conflict issues that happen between any living beings.
I used to have a rabbitry years ago. Hundreds of rabbits born into the family over the years.
Every single one had its own little personality. I really thought they were just automatons or something, not unique like dogs, until I started raising so many of them.
Odd thing is, like human beings, for no real qualifiable reason at all, one rabbit would just absolutely hate another one. I never could find any rhyme or reason to it. Its like completely random.
But it wasnt random. It was just that each rabbit has their own personality and for whatever reason decided they didnt like some other rabbit and theyd try to kill each other if they managed to get out into one of the other runs somehow (caught one ninja climbing up a fence one day trying to get to her mortal enemy. lol)
I had to keep those particular rabbits apart.
I shouldnt have had to, but it was either keep them apart or theyd fight.
Its the same with humanity. We all SHOULD be able to get along. SHOULD be able to have intelligent discourse.
But we dont.
SHOULDNT have to go to wars. SHOULDNT hate each other.
But we do.
The internet brought that little neighborhood community I grew up in out into the world at large. Now instead of just my local neighbors I have nearly the entire globe of human beings to talk to.
The more I talk to, the more combative personalities I cross…and the more I realize there HAVE to be checks in place to keep it controlled, otherwise like those rabbits all thats going to happen is fighting.
That is why we NEED account wide blocks in here.
Not because of what things SHOULD be…but because of what things ARE.
no i believe that account wide ignore feature would not be good for these forums.
we’ll just agree to disagree.
Ive been using account wide blocks, including blocked PMs, since around 2005 for the forums I own and admin. Its really not caused any problems, and while I havent checked to see who has blocked who, given some past ill behavior I imagine enough have used it.
18 years now. Not a single complaint about it.
Anyways, here is a question:
Yeah. There has to be some way to tie all the toons who have ever been exposed to the forums together for this to work. At minimum, it would require them to join some kind of group upon logging in for the 1st time, and ignore is changed to instead ignore all members of that group.
The much easier and better idea is to swap the root account ID from character to a single identity, and have ignores, post history, likes, flags, trust level, all work off that single identity. Characters would still be there, but like a skin (the same way that Lord Darius and Dunkmaster Darius are still Darius).
No idea on if that person was responding to me or not over the angry tirade.
how do you ignore hidden profiles again? it should be a button you can easily click on.
I really don’t want to diss the forum team because there’s actually neat tech behind it, like the infinite scrolling as opposed to sifting through hundreds of individual pages.
But then there’s other things that are just baffling, like how malicious users are actually rewarded.