They gave me some pills to help with the throat that are supposed to be real strong (3 per day ) , a real strong allergy medicine to help with siunus drainage ( at bed time ) and a steroid C-Pack
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I think some of the stuff people chose to ignore on is petty, but in the end, I just let others do what they want to do. It doesn’t really effect me in any way what so ever.
But the thing I’ve noticed is that most people use the ignore to ignore the trolling and what not, which shows people are more than willing to use ignores for less petty reasons.
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You can ignore someone for any reason of course. I was just more focused on the first part.
But the whole point of being on an anonymous forum is so people do NOT get to know the real me, if I want to expose my real life self I’ve got Facebook for that.
I don’t believe ostracizing someone is the answer, sure if someone crosses the line into REAL criminal behavior (i.e threats of violence, I am talking serious felony level behavior) but I do believe if we make an effort to help people fit in, that would be better, too many people ignore others simply because they don’t like them,
To me I am against the idea of account wide ignores, because Blizzard could just ban people doing the wrong thing on the forum for six months if they wanted to, I remember the days on the old forum when Blizz blue posters would say ‘people have their reasons’ for not posting on a main character,
Well I believe in many cases ostracism IS a form of social punishment, it’s the kiss of social death, now hear me out here on this…
Have you heard of the Gossip Trap? It’s also known as the sapient paradox. The theory is that humans have been around for 200, 000 years, yet why is it that it’s taken that many thousands of years for us to start building skyscrapers and going to the moon? (some believe there were advanced civilizations before our current one, but that’s another debate)
The point is this, that long before we had governments and strict laws to stop us from killing each other, the primary method of control was actually social pressures; and I regret to say, what I am seeing more and more of, not just here but all over the internet, is social media wearing like a skin suit made of laws, institutions and government, a technocracy slowly taking over, people talk about ‘less work for mods’ but the problem I have with that, is you are creating a situation where raw social power will slowly begin to outstrip formal power, at the end of the day, I would sooner live under benevolent rulers to make the decisions on who gets in trouble and who doesn’t, then be at the mercy of people who are meant to be my equals deciding my fate,
A lot of people, especially people with diagnosed social disabilities will always have a bit of trouble fitting in, of course I know there is always the option to only say good things and do good deeds or just remain silent.
Like, what? How is ignoring someone “excluding” someone? Like seriously, you do know what an ignore is, and how it works?
Lets say I place you back on ignore, did it exclude you from the forums? Did it exclude you from posting? All the ignore does is hides your post from my own viewing if I was the one ignoring you. It doesn’t exclude you from the forums or threads, or doesn’t stop you from posting on the forums or threads.
Ignoring people and moderation are apples and oranges. Moderation and Ignores are 2 different things. Like, seriously, both are not connected in any form or way. Both are completely 2 different things.
Reason why people are advocating for account wide ignores Lilithia, is because of people such as yourself, yes, you included, think it is alright to bypass peoples ignores to reply to the same people who placed you on ignore in the first place?
Yeah, remember when you did this:
Pretending to be someone different despite everyone explained to you on what BattleTags are and their functionality, and you decided to switch alts to pretend to be someone different to get pass people’s ignores.
Here is a fact for you, Lilithia: You are not above the rules. The same rules that applies to me, to Naughtymoon, to Veidmann, to Tarrok, to basically everyone that uses these forums, apply to you as well!
And everyone here, has every right to chose to ignore you as a person, not just one of your characters on the account! The same goes for everyone.
EDIT:
When you’re posting, it is the person that you are that is posting, not your character. When using the forums, it is the person that you are that is browsing, not the character. Now, unless you named every alt of yours your real name, address, phone number, social security number, shoe size, etc, nobody is going to fully know the real you. The person behind that monitor.
Plus, with how much personal information about your life you have put about yourself here on the forums, don’t need Facebook for that when you have done it yourself.
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I mean, no one is expecting to learn every little detail of people (although, to be fair, you tend to overshare on some personal details) But, we all expose some degree of who we are in how we communicate with others, and we use what we learn about other posters through what they share to decide if they’re someon we want to give time to.
Just simply that no matter what character we post as, it’s still us making the post everytime and who we are comes through in how we communicate. So if what you expose in typing makes someone not want to deal with that, it’s not gonna automagically change when someone changes posting character. It’s not the the level 70 Tauren Paladin that someone might want to ignore if they’re tired of me, it’s the person posting using that character that they want to ignore.
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I don’t know what to tell you. It simply does not work like that in the real world. When you post, you aren’t expressing the thoughts, feelings, beliefs, and opinions of the character.
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Well said.
In our case if it isn’t posters here attempting to control the forums it’ll be someone else.
Mishandled in implementation this forum could go to pieces quiet quickly.
If Blizz ever get around to it.
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You appeal to some idealied point of human history, as if an armchair right-wing psychologist.
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Ignoring somone is not controlling the entire forum and playing moderator, holy yikes.
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Quick show of hands… Who here has a deep-seated fear of rejection?
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I kinda do, but people still have the right to do so.
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My only mistake there was not using a classic alt. I have a right to privacy if I wish it.
No, as the system allows me to post on an alt that you don’t know if I wish, so at present, you simply don’t have that at the moment.
This isn’t the real world, World of Warcraft is my escape from the real world, though in fairness ever since mythic+ came out with all the go go go mentality, it’s becoming too much like the real world for my liking.
There’s only only one psychologist in the world that fits that description, Jordan Peterson, and I am not exactly the biggest fan of him, though I admit he used to make some interesting analysis of Disney cartoons.
raises hand
I admit, rejection can hurt. That’s why I take steps to avoid it in the first place, especially on the internet.
Also Ardmcloud…thank you for being the only one that actually listened to the gist of what I was saying, everyone else ignored my deep philosophical points, except the person that compared to me an ‘armchair right-wing psychologist’ lol.
I have no stakes in this, which greatly frustrates the supporters.
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Speaking of account wide ignore, FF14 is getting updates and improvements in that regard in Dawntrail. When you blacklist someone, not only does it block messages but it will hide their character models and it’s account wide lol.
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In FF14, it’s not really as needed, as most people are nice over there on that game anyway compared to wow.
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No clue, I haven’t ignored anyone in any game, ever.
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I like this idea we should have the same functionality, this will work.
I approve.
Account wide ignore please.
Time for a forum update out with the old in with the new with account wide ignores.
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There are probably more. The human race is vast. And he isn’t armchair. He’s an actual psychologist. And you sounded like him. I don’t understand why you’d say that.
I actually consider him a bit too right-wing for my liking, he’s against things like Universal Basic Income (which I’m not), thinks churches should be safe space for men down on their luck, and countless other right-wing positions that I don’t support.