Can we finally get Gnomeragon and Gilneas as proper cities?

We’re due a proper gnome city for 15 years.

Gilneas is a gorgeous gothic city that only 1 race of 1 faction got to see for about 2 hours and then never again.

A quick scenerio where we round up the loose worgen, cleanse the radiation out of gnomer and boop some baddie on the nose and we get a proper city again.

The question isn’t why, it’s WHY NOT.

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The problem is going to always be that it’s a tangent that the developers can’t really bother to use time on. Until those areas are being made relevant again by story or whatnot, they’re just not going to dump the hours into refurbishing them because people will go there, say “huh, neat”, and then go back to whatever important place is the current quest hub.

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Because alliance needed a fleet, that gets lost going to Naz….this is why these cities can’t be fixed up.

You have to go to small islands no one cared about for a lost cause rather than fix up the alliance infrastructure.

Be happy you still have the city though. Night elves will be expected to eat a crap sandwhich to “break the cycle”. One day they may fix them…maybe.

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If wow were still an mmo, you’d have a point.

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I’d love for Gilneas to be usable, and I think a significant portion of Gnomeregan has been recovered canonically, but we’ll get neither of those things in-game because “time locked” and also “Horde would need something too” and there aren’t many good Horde candidates.

Also the fact that Blizzard outright destroyed 1 vanilla capital city per faction in BfA should tell you that they have 0 interest in expanding the world in this way. They want everyone funneled to SW/Org + Whatever current endgame hub. Which is lame, but it is what it is.

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At this point I dont even want Gnomeregan anymore, I want a new gnomish city with all the fancy bells and whistles.

Gnomeregan can go explode for a third time for all I care.

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When I saw that gnomes were getting heritage armour I thought to myself “oh great! a perfect opportunity to retake Gnomeragon and rebuild it as a proper city” … yeah that didn’t happen. Likewise, if they have heritage armour for Worgens eventually, I doubt they will make Gilneas a proper city.

If they didn’t add flying to the Belf and Draenei zones (Eversong Woods/Ghostlands & Azuremyst Isle/Bloodmyst Isle), which in my opinion have had relevance these past expansions then I highly doubt (but would be really cool to see!) them revamp Gnomeragon or Gilneas

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This is a good point, too.

I think Gnomeregan (the dungeon) was pretty clearly designed as a dungeon first, beat up Gnomish city… like 4th maybe? It would need an overhaul to feel good, but the dungeon already exists so an overhaul wouldn’t fit properly. It’s not a matter of streamlining paths like old vs new Scholomance. And that leaves… new city. Which makes sense since they started building on the surface in Cata or whatever.

But again, not happening.

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Too much work, mate.

I’m sorry, but Alliance is the faction that has perpetual losses!
We never win or recover what we lost!
I can’t imagine Blizzard brutalizing itself for giving the Alliance some encouragement over restoring cities like Gilneas or rebuilding Gnomeran!

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I’d settle for a real capitol city for Draenei. One that, you know, people actually visit.

I’m sure Blood Elfs feel similarly.

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Weird there were a lot of people in Mechagon today and even more doing the Meadery. It is almost like there were a massive amount of multiple people playing online.

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So just go and give Alliance two more faction cities? What will they balance that with for horde?

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What did you lose for Theramore and Nethergarde Keep. I’ll wait for you to look.

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If the Alliance gets 2 more cities…then what? Trolls and goblins get a proper city too?

Thats a ton of extra fluff design that doesn’t actually add anything to the majority of the playing population.

Cities won’t get worked on unless they are directly related to the plot.

Secondary cities just have never been deemed that important.

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Is it just me or is Gnomeregan much larger than Mechagon? I mean sure, Mechagon is visually varied, but it seems like one small section of a larger city.

Maybe if they didn’t stick half the dungeon outside in the area we have been farming it would have been better, I dunno.

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Has the Horde lost any capital?
The Horde needs nothing!
Blizzard has done a lot by not letting the alliance destroy any of its capitals!
After all, in this war, only the Horde fought!

The Alliance had more leveling zones and fully fleshed out areas then horde did prior to Cata. Horde didn’t loose as much because Horde already had less and that was evening it out. It would hardly make sense to balance the zones and then have horde loose a bunch more as well…

Now with the faction’s fairly equal to what each has it actually makes your comment kind of resemble a strawman of sorts (especially since both were merely quest hubs and not racial capitals).

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The ideal thing would be a restored gilneans with a large kaldorei district and a new or restored gnomeregan. What we will most likely get is two other cities nuked™ and WMD’ed™ by Blizzard.

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The topic of flying in Eversong+Ghostlands is a funny one, because they were clearly considering it while Cataclysm was in development. The reason we know this is because Eversong got a non-trivial edit in Cataclysm: the huge Amani troll gate at Tor’watha was removed. Also if you poke around the area between Stratholme and the Ghostlands instance portal, you’ll find the beginnings of an attempt to integrate Ghostlands into EK proper (details and pictures here).

My guess is that they were working on it but then ran out of time, so it ended up on the cutting room floor.