It all comes down to if it’s been pitched to the shareholders or not. If it has and they said it will make an estimated x dollars I would expect it to be an option but who knows…
Financially it make sense to do it. Probably cost about 2 cents per clone and they would charge $20-30 bucks for the service that’s a pretty nice return of investment.
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Will have new Anniv Classic Era server. 
Disagree. Not everyone even knew what Era was before starting to play Anniversary. Some people have come back to the game without understanding all the unintuitive language that Blizzard implement in their games (e.g. “Retail” which should be “Progression”, “Classic” which should be “Vanilla”, “Era” which should be “Vanilla Era” or “Vanilla Permanent”).
And let’s ACTUALLY think about this for a second, if Blizzard allow people to clone their toons to Era before TBC comes out three things happen:
- The people that played Anniversary who WANT to be able to clone their toons would be thankful because all their hard work in terms of obtaining gear, levelling, kitting out their toons etc. won’t all be undone when they get their first greens in TBC and can be frozen in time forever (or as long as the servers stay up)
and
- Blizzard makes more money when people pay to clone their toons to Era
and
- The people who do not care about cloning their toons over STILL get to progress them into TBC anyway.
It is LITERALLY a win-win-win situation for all parties, and it shouldn’t happen because… why? Seriously maybe you should go work at Blizzard, your attitude seems to reflect what their values are these days, i.e. “You think you do, but you don’t” and “You all have phones don’t you???”
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They should add a fresh era server for each type(PVP, PVE, RPPVP, RP) every 2 years.
Just one of each.
With enforced faction balance.
GDKP ban optional.
A GDKP ban is pointless if they do nothing about rampant gold buying imo.
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The only reason I have a warrior on fresh is to bring a warrior to era with conc stones and UDC (and tabards).
If they implemented invasions on era I’d probably delete my fresh warrior
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this is just wrong again.
“fresh vanilla” has been requested, rumored, and advertised since even before 2021 TBC classic. “Fresh Anniversary Realms” we’re made to answer that demand. Moving into TBC was never an ask for the “fresh vanilla” crowd that has existed long before “anniversary realms” were a thing.
Hardcore servers aren’t even going to TBC
These realms were always Fresh vanilla first and TBC progression was an added bonus.
Therefore, yes we will be receiving transfers to era. Put money on it.
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Fresh vanilla is what you wanted, but fresh vanilla isn’t what blizzard delivered.
You got anniversary realms with accelerated phase timelines and dual spec- indicated to be “progression realms” from the start. It’s always been a TBC waiting room, with very clear labeling on the door.
For awhile, you somehow were able to trick yourself into believing that you were playing “fresh vanilla”, and yet now that the expansion pre-patch is impending around the corner, your illusion is shattered as you’re forced to reckon with the fact that your characters are on progression realms instead of an Era realm.
Again I’ll lay it out simply: If you don’t want your characters automatically progressed to the next expansion, then don’t play on a “progression realm” (anniversary).
Era is the only official place to play perma-60 vanilla wow. You should’ve been putting your playtime there if you didn’t want to end up in TBC. This isn’t news to anyone.
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Nobody knows what Blizz is going to do. They have bee radio silent on the matter. It could go either way. 1.Your character could just progress to TBC, 2. You may be given the choice of going to Era or going TBC, or 3. They could offer a paid clone service to have the character progress to TBC and be cloned to Era.
Anyone who says they know with certainty what they are going to do are lying. We all will just have to wait and see.
The clone service makes everyone happy. Blizz makes money for the service, people that want a clone in Era get one, and people that just want to progress to TBC do and don’t need to worry about the clone service.
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I agree that they’ve not been offering any clarifying info on this topic specifically in recent times.
So we are left to deduct likelihoods based on what they have said… And all that they have said so far is that anniversary realms phase in to TBC. So anyone not using that info as their starting point when making an assumption about this topic is reaching into thin air and trying to pull out what they hope will be the case, instead of looking at the messaging delivered by blizzard already.
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I fully agree nobody is debating that servers are going to progress into TBC. But I still think that those 3 options all have a chance of happening.
Personally I’d like to be able to clone or just pick to stay on Era and not go to TBC because I love level 60 classic wow. I doubt you will get to pick Era instead of TBC but I think there will be a good chance of the clone service there is just too much money to be made for Blizz with very little effort.
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If this is the decision maker selection of importance then transfers are a gonner and its 100% re-roll fresh on era if that is the game you want because if its down to QE then the best ROI comes from doing nothing and this forces the “we want vanill” players to 100% re-roll and their bots also because they will still be wanting to buy gold.
The bots will also have to buy more accounts because they’re spread now over two games instead of 1 and all this generates more than a single Per character 25 dollars transfer. These are more details on why the best QE comes from do nothing, but I just detailer the low hanging fruit.
This was posted and bumped at the beginning of anniversary. I get that not everyone checks forums but there is seriously a bit of personal responsibility here to research this kind of thing if you don’t understand it.
Except in typical anniv player format, you’ve completely ignored the party for whom transfers would be a massive loss.
You only cite what anniversary players want, what blizzard wants, and what TBC players want.
What you’ve neglected entirely in your analysis the existing Era community itself, which would be met with massive disruption from a flood of bots, economy gamers, and resource hoarders bringing over items acquired on an accelerated timeline with dual-spec.
Your inherent disregard for the fact that there is already a relatively tight-knit community playing on Era that wants nothing to do with anniversary is part of the problem. Please try examining how your proposed actions affect others instead of just how they would affect your characters personally.
Start a new character on Era if Era is where you want to be playing. It IS that simple.
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There’s nothing vanilla past the dark portal.
Era toons probably make blizzard less per player than retail / mop toons since those buy the token and other things. If they plan to add token or boost to tbc, the economics may favor them locking the ‘anniversary’ wave into that progression and hopefully offramping them to retail.
Anniversary is known to be a massive gold buyer glob that they could potentially milk hard with the token.
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What you’ve neglected entirely in your analysis the existing Era community itself, which would be met with massive disruption from a flood of bots, economy gamers, and resource hoarders bringing over items acquired on an accelerated timeline with dual-spec.
I personally have farmed resources for Naxx but I am nowhere near a “resource hogger” and I only have a few hundred gold atm on my character. It’s ironic of you to label all Anniversary players as being bots and resources hoarders. There are SOME people that are like that, and if you Era players are so concerned about it then Blizzard should implement a limit of sorts, e.g. if someone has 10k gold then when they clone their character it’ll only have 200g. Or if they have 5000 elemental water then when they clone it over they’ll only have 200. Or clone them to an entire new Era server that doesn’t exist or something for god’s sake. You make it sound like it’s completely impossible and it’s frustrating you dismissed my thoughts entirely.
Please try examining how your proposed actions affect others instead of just how they would affect your characters personally.
Extreme hypocrisy here. You should do the exact same thing when you say Anniversary players should not be able to transfer, you’ve ignorantly painted ALL of them with the same brush. For your information, I came back to WoW after not playing heavily since Wrath. I paid no attention at all to the game the past 15+ years, all I did was see that fresh Anniversary servers were starting up and since I didn’t play in 2019 I’d figured I’d give it a go. I haven’t bought any gold at all and I didn’t even use RestedXP to level, it literally took me something like 20 days /played to level my toon.
Blizzard also have terrible unintuitive nomenclature when it comes to WoW so I had no idea what “Era” was (or SoD, or SoM), IF I could’ve rolled on there I would’ve but I also would’ve liked to be able to go through to TBC and Wrath eventually.
No offence but people like you seem to always automatically assume other people are your enemy, I posted a completely reasonable reply and whilst I did completely neglect Era players (I’ve never played on Era so I have no idea of what the culture is on the servers) at least I tried to reason out a solution to it instead of just saying “NO”.
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There’s nothing vanilla past the dark portal.
My point was that “Classic” as it is called is “Vanilla” (i.e. it is World of Warcraft as it was prior to any expansions) so it should be called “World of Warcraft VANILLA” because there are people out there who believe WoW Classic also encompasses TBC and some even think it encompasses Wrath. If the game was called “World of Warcraft vanilla” (or heck, anything else that is straight forward like “World of Warcraft original” or “World of Warcraft standard”, I’m sure others can think of better words to use) then there’d be less confusion. It goes along with their “Season of Mastery” and “Season of Discovery” test runs, they are completely unintuitive ways to describe what those test runs were.
Anniversary is known to be a massive gold buyer glob that they could potentially milk hard with the token.
That’s fair but not everyone is a gold buyer. I came back to the game after not playing heavily since the original Wrath launch, I hardly paid any attention to the game after Cata although I did dabble in Cata and MoP and I jumped into Anni because I heard that servers were starting up.
If Era players are concerned of Anniversary players stuffing up the economy then Blizzard can go ahead and limit the amount of gold and resources toons can be cloned with, I’d be absolutely fine with it. Not everyone on Anni is a gold buying, botting, resource hogging player and it’s sad that people on Era label Anni players as such. And before you say it, if Anni players say the same about Era players then obviously that’s sad too.
I simply can’t understand why people cannot sympathise and be reasonable about this.
This literally makes no sense. Why wouldn’t they just release a TBC era from 2.0.1 as the “anniversary realm” then??
Again you’re just a contrarian with no substance in your arguments. Back to reddit.
What’s with the recent poster obsession with Reddit? Makes about as much sense as telling people to go back to Habbo Hotel. We’re discussing WoW on the WoW forums to avoid outer-site drama and weirdness.
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Because I have no sympathy for a bad idea. And by “be reasonable” I assume you mean agree with you, meaning that it is not reasonable to disagree with you.
I wish they would’ve, and I agree that’s what they should’ve done. However that decision has nothing to do with me… That’s just blizzard being blizzard, as usual. No one said their timeline made sense, but they do whatever they think will funnel FOMO hype-chasers into a space that can be heavily monetized.
Lol is this like the only tool in your toolkit for trying to refute someone’s argument?
I’ve literally never had a reddit account so this accusation falls so flat it just makes me giggle irl. 
Okay, I’m going to turn down the heat because you appropriately used the word “nomenclature”, and I respect that.
It’s far less broad that you’re implying here.
Players trying to suddenly appear on Era after having never leveled up on Era are my enemy. You simply happen to fall into that category now. It was never personal, and will never be personal.
Well I do play Era, and that’s exactly why I’m here advocating against what I know (from historical experience) would have a damaging effect on Era’s community and economy.
In even the original announcement for anniversary servers, blizzard stated that those realms progress to TBC. Furthermore, there were posters here pointing this out from day 1, telling people that if you don’t want to end up in TBC, then you need to just be rolling on Era instead. Obviously I don’t expect every player will see or acknowledge every post like that, but my point is that the information was always out there from day 1. This isn’t some ‘surprise’ event where TBC is being sprung on people unexpectedly… This was always the plan for anniversary servers from the onset. With that said, there’s a bit of personal responsibility at play here regarding where to invest your playtime.
I am sympathetic to the fact that, for new/returning players, the terminology and labeling used by blizzard is not explicitly clear, and could create confusion if one wasn’t investigating further of their own volition.
Despite this, that doesn’t change my position that transfers onto Era from other game versions have objectively negative effects on Era realms. I’ve lived it through other versions. I believe blizzard now internally recognizes this (as evidenced by the lack of transfers from Season of Discovery). Although, it still wouldn’t surprise me if they did the cloning thing purely for a cash-grab, because that’s what they do.
There is however, no reason to not just level up characters on Era if you don’t want to be forced into TBC. That’s the best option for all parties imo. Era is way healthier with organic levelers than with a litany of bots and 60s popping up overnight trying to shift price indexes and abrupt server culture.