Can they buff DK survivability

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I don’t even play a DK, but every solo shuffle that has one they are just inevitable tombstones on my screen that will fit the rest of the graveyard on Ruins of Lordaeron.

DK taking sustained pressure outside of enemy team burst CDs “welp, gotta pop ascendence/sac/bop/ns, etc. or he dies. Not sure if there’s a way DKs can play more defensive, but I’m def not leveling one after seeing how easily they drop like flies.

Did blizz forget to scale their health and armor for TWW? Seems like they’re stuck with DF stats.

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Its better off this way :dracthyr_nod:

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This panda’s got a point. Here ya go: :cookie:

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That’s funny cause I played a shuffle last night w an unholy around 2k mmr with a fury war, MM hunter, arms warrior where the DK 6-0’d doing “good” damage…The other dps were bad(comparatively) but it still made me honor gear mine if they can make it through that lobby

Edit- Changed for hypoberle. Also it was a rdruid vs rsham lobby so IDK if that is the reason for him working out. Still, if they were paper squishy and did bad damage i don’t think I’d have seen that

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Maybe buff death strike damage too hehe :dracthyr_love_animated:

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I like this idea - so long as it’s buffed for all DK specs.

:smirk:

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:scream::scream::scream:

The two kitties are here!!! :heart_eyes_cat:

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I don’t know if the problem is really the damage, but rather the amount of healing or the seconds of defense it provides.

We lose a PvP talent and it’s almost not really worth it , considering that certain combos bypass any possibility of defense

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He just wants to blast people to pieces again with it like in season 1 lolz

Death strike could use a little love

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A wise man once told me petkick is making it work

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Most dks i see use defensives offensively. Not sure if that’s the main issue here.

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I think dk is definitely one of the squishier melee dps, especially vs physical damage like hunter/war/ww which are super prevalent atm.

That being said, I feel like they’re also hard to kill even if their health is SUPER spiky with deathstrike and Bloodforged Armor.

Idk, when I play DK I’m scared for my life the entire game vs melee, but feel unkillable vs wizards.

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The dk is strong into wizards meme gotta go.

What do we even have that makes us tanky into casters at this point.

Ams gets blown off in 1 gcd IBF is a standard wall and our passive defensives are all gutted

Imo dh ww and assa are all filling the anti wizard niche and DK is stuck being a damage bot with a toolkit that’s not built for modern pvp and I think the evidence is all the dk names you can think of most are playing something else and have been for a long time now

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I didn’t say strong, I said, “I feel unkillable”. Obviously smaller sample size and at a lower rating than I play boomy, for example, but I think DK IS pretty durable into wizards.

Permanent magic damage dr, 30s ams, amz, grips to reposition casters, and DA is bananas good atm.

I dont think I’ve ever had ams blown off in a single gcd unless it was, like, during enemy major cds and even then, I’ve never died through ams. Also, if they do enough damage to break ams and hit your healthbar in a meaningful way, then you’re doing like a 2.5mil death strike.

Weirdly DK has better uptime into wizards than all of these specs because of new horseman DA and wraithwalk XD

I just think DK really lacks kill pressure because of its extreme lack of lockdown.

Yes and no. I think DK would be fine if it had access to reliable stuns and/or a MS, but the meta is very solidly melee+caster atm and has been for a while, and DK really doesn’t bring anything to support casters that other melee don’t do better. Feels like DK is forced to play melee cleaves atm, which just seem super mid at best with every class having super cleave damage baked into their normal rotation.

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3%? Positional 20% wall when arena has Korean mmo levels of mobility, grip? Rly bruh.

Deaths advance sure. There’s nothing special about dks kit into wizards would rather have 3x garrote

Idk what expac ur playing but im feeling the opposite I have a ton of kill pressure and doing psychotic damage during CDs but my healer is 24 with grey hair

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Dks used to be my bane as they were vs any weak wizard players like myself and now they seem the most killable I’ve ever seen them

Pop ams like a zit now without even noticing sometimes

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Buff their survivability vs physical damage. They have plenty vs spells.

Wait you guys wanna more buff dks vs magic :joy:.

Ok if that’s the case then let’s also buff devastation and boomkin survivability as well.

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I think these things are excellent into everything that isn’t mage. Mage and Warrior have been playing this weird pve & pvp arms race with eachother that has made them WAY more mobile than other classes.

Yeah, but assa rogues are way easier to kill and shut down as wizards, but offensively more lethal and annoying. Which is what I was saying earlier where DK lacks lockdown. You have one stun OR silence (that takes a pvp talent) on a 45s cd. That pales in comparison to every other class except WW and at least ww has better burst and an MS AND an aoe stun.

Idk, I just press deathstrike and I never die vs wizards o.O

I had a game vs destro frost mage where I gave that warlock more precogs than I landed kicks and just won over like 6 minutes by pressing deathstrike.

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I am so mad rn lol

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LMAO.

That’s my point, though. It doesn’t matter if ams breaks or my health spikes. It never ever hit zero because deathstrike is perma anti-spike damage and ams is enough to keep me alive.

I played horribly and I never died to a wizard this season o.O

Meanwhile I’ve had games vs fury warrior where I do over 30 million healing and 96% uptime on chains of ice while playing bloodforged armor and still lose.