Can someone please explain why RDF is such a big deal?

You. You may never need it. People play at all times if the day for lots of different reasons. Server sizes change over time. These two reasons are enough for RDF to be in the game.

I, others like me, leverage dungeons for farming emblems, not gear. We use these emblems to buy heirloom gear as a way to more rapidly level alts or because we collect things.

For me, I came back to Wrath because I wanted to pvp in this era. I also wanted to play more than just my dk in pvp. So my focus, or plan, was to leverage dungeons to get heirloom gear, rapidly level alts, and then pvp on them. Let’s be honest, leveling in this era after you’ve done it many times is a slog. On Ashkandi as a dps, for a full world tour, depending on time of day when you can logon, can take 6-12hrs to complete. RDF provides a way to dramatically reduce this.

My time is important to me, I would presume it’s important to most people as well. I don’t want my time wasted using an archaic tool.

I cannot and have never understood why people get upset over things that have no bearing on their ability to do content. I think pet battles are childish and silly. I don’t do them. I am glad that system is in place for people to do them that enjoy them.

I don’t raid anymore, have no interest in raiding, but I’m glad it’s there for people who enjoy doing that.

I hate leveling. I’ve leveled upwards of 40 characters to max level in retail, 20 were at level 120. If they offered paid level boost I would buy them in a heartbeat. I don’t need nor do I want to keep seeing the world, I’ve done it. End game pvp is my vibe, like many.

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Not saying there’s anything wrong with playing the way you do, but if people are leveling faster there are fewer characters in the “leveling” phase and therefore fewer people out there leveling.

I know lacking RDF also discourages people from leveling altogether and might limit the leveling population also.

So all I’m saying is there are multiple forces at play here.

If the mechanic took the Wheels off your car and replaced them with Triangles would you complain about the bumpy ride and question them? Wouldn’t you say hey!! Wheels were great!

RDF is the Wheel and best feature ever created for an MMO. The LFG is a triangle. We just want a smooth ride and literally the best solution to all the problems we have in game is an RDF.

It isn’t complicated. WotLK is painful without RDF and wastes our time on something that isn’t right. Not having RDF is only hurting WotLK from being the great game it once was.

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lets see if i can help you here… im honestly going to try and explain my view point on it…

a) my guild used rdf to run our 5 man by que popping to port to dungeons. this was done to make their limited play times more efficient and more fun than sitting on a flight path griffon to get to dungeon.

b) when my guild only had enough to field 3 teams of 4 or just down one or two for a five man in offpeak hours, rdf would make a quick fix, que pop with minutes for a couple of dps and we were off an runnin.

c.) when my guild wasnt doing anything important, most were working on professions or chasing achievements… i could grab my healer friend and my tank character to que and run a few dungeons so more alliance dps could get a run (helping lift up the faction)

d.) when i was in game in off peak hours for my server, levelling an alt, i could easily get a run because it was xrealm rdf and que would generally pop within 15 minutes while i was farming ore or questing solo.

e.) people that i met in rdf, id say around 90% of them speaking from MY experience, were pleasant and helpul and willing to teach if someone didnt know the dungeon. i was able to build a guild of over 300+ players most of which i invited after running them in rdf. sometimes sitting at the last boss fight spot after beating the boss, chatting with the folks. i had seveal people pay to transfer to our server to join our guild.

f.) rdf allowed LFG chat channel to be freed up and we used it for pugging raids and making guild alliances on the nordrassil server.

was their still toxicity? of course there was, but it was limited in rdf interactions and most of it occurred in open chat channels where we just clicked ignore player and moved on with life. we cant prove it but we think rdf would NOT que you up with anyone on your ignore list.

hope this helps, and again, this is MY reasoning that without rdf i will probably let my sub die off. The LFG tool is complete toxic elitist gatekeeping hot garbage that does nothing to promote a good or new social experience to anyone that isnt in the cliques of the elitists.

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RDF is a big deal because full servers have an empty LFG

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mmmm imagine saying that botters and gold farmers are the people who needs RDF, that kind of people will buy a lvl 70 booster just like u did.

why are you crying about multiboxers? they don’t exist since the begining of shadowlands… bad remembers? were you kicked by multiboxers? incredible how people still complaining for a thing from the past LOL

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All I really meant was that from a group forming perspective max level content will never really struggle to fill in a timely manner, but yes as I said in another post many people value their time input in the game rather than the social interaction they get out of it.

Fundamentally speaking I don’t really agree that other changes don’t impact everyone to some degree, but a lot of it has to deal with your mentality on how you approach the game. Some people can look at a feature and say “I don’t like that feature I will not engage with it” but others will say “I don’t like that feature but I must engage with it because it’s necessary”

Personally I find the argument of “If you don’t like it just don’t do it” just completely misses the mark of the opposing viewpoint. When people argue that flight shouldn’t be in the game and people tell them not to do it if they don’t like it they’ve missed the point because those people know that if flight is in the game that it’s already changed the game in a way that can’t be solved by them just staying grounded. In the same way if people don’t think RDF is good for the game the moment it gets implemented they’ve already lost.

You may not agree with why they think the feature is bad for the game, but at the end of the day these hot topic discussions about specific features in Classic are very controversial because people know how those features ultimately changed the game over in Retail and they didn’t like it then so they don’t like it now.

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Dual spec appeared in Ulduar. Cold Weather Flying Book appeared in ToC. What are you talking about? We already have stuff in the previous patch existing in the current patch.

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Ding, ding, ding, ding!

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Background, been playing since the get go. I’m an old man and I always played solo until RDF came along. It was an easy, non-obtrusive way for me to run dungeons for the first time back in the day. Now, I feel like I’m in the same spot I was years ago, playing solo and not being able to run dungeons that are level appropriate. LOL, not a gold farmer, not a bot, just an old guy that lives in the mountains and has a difficult time dealing with some stuff. That’s why I miss RDF…just my 2 cents.

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Probably because the LFG tool is dogwater and RDF is superior to it in every way.

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I like to level alts. RDF makes that way more fun.

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They wont say it outright but it’s so they can bypass heroic lockouts, even though heroics are already dead.

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They say that’s when the game started to go downhill, however, there’s proof, and legitimate proof that the downfall of the game stemmed more around Blizzard breadcrumbing you to where your quests are and holding your hands to the point where it takes all thought process out of the equation. The relative easiness of the game has become more prevalent overtime which is the fundamental downfall the game not a tool.

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by just playing their game you are doing exactly what they want you to do. Let alone paying a sub.

Fair enough.

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If the original Wrath was any indication, this simply isn’t true. I can clearly remember dungeons and heroics hardly being ran at all besides the daily.

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you can only buy 1 boost, its a 1 time deal. And i havent bought mine, yet.

I can understand this, and I agree with it for the most part. However, when you sum this up, it basically means “I don’t want feature X because I want other people to be content for me and I know they won’t if there’s an alternative”. Which is fine. This is an MMO after all. But I wish they’d just admit that.

RDF supporters are self entitled and lazy. They don’t want to actually play the game. That is what I have heard others say at least.

Without knowing too much about it, I would imagine people for RFD at this point are the people being passed over in the LFG channel for reasons. The plate melee specifically. In RFD you’d get groups of 3 DKs, a warrior, and a holy pally but unless no one needs anything, they’re not about to make a group like that on their own.