Can someone explain to me Warcraft Logs?

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Can someone please explain to me what each of the stats on this website mean? Specifically, the stats related to mythic+ keys. My friend told me that my logs were not that good and I fail to understand why. When I ask my friends what any of the stats on the website mean, they cannot give me a good explanation, so therefore I fail to understand what stats mean what, and where I am falling short, and why.

I dont feel like im a bad tank. I finished a +10 plaguefall yesterday, within the time limit, and the warcraft logs has given me a Med. score of 29 on that run. But on my mists +10, it gives me a Med. Score of 59. why? What is the difference between these two runs, especially when I thought the plaguefall is a much harder dungeon and the run went much smoother.

I have higher points on the plaguefall run, but less Med. score…and the worldwide Rank of the run is much higher than all my other runs, yet my Med. score is low. And my friends told me that a green Med. score was bad. So im having a hard time understanding what makes me bad even though im timing +10 keys. The stats make no sense to me and seem inconsistent, giving me a lower Med. Score for a run that overall has more points and has a better timed rank than all my others.

Can someone please explain this to me? Do i need to be uploading logs for this to be accurate? because Im not.

So yeah what does Best %, Highest Points, Med. Score. Best Perf. Score, and Med. Perf. Avg, and what are all star points?

What are each of these stats, what do they represent and how can I improve them?

Also , the logs are scoring me on a depleted necrotic wake 6 I did weeks ago, instead of a completed, +9 wake on time…why would it score me on a depleted key rather than the timed +9?

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I dunno, buddy. Logs are the perfect example of signal-to-noise ratio clouding people’s common sense. I’ve been told my logs are low, and yet we have people in the raids who parse purple/orange but die to mechanics, do not dispel or interrupt, etc. In other words, logs are a tool for those “using” the logs to reach whatever outcome they want.

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You did what you wanted to do in the time limit required. Tell your friend if he’s that interested in logs he should be a lumberjack.

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Logs are weird, and subject to manipulation and randomness.

I don’t know how they’ve changed for tanks, but I’ve never really put weight into their stats unless there was a problem.

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As a tank you’re primarily scored on mitigating damage. If there’s a spike damage event coming in and you fail to mitigate it your score won’t be as high. I haven’t looked at your log, but there are details on different views for a given log you can explore. If you want specific suggestions, you can ask for that and people will review your log and offer up ideas to improve.

If you’re getting invited to groups and clearing content, you probably don’t need to worry too much about Raider IO and Warcraft Logs. If you’re concerned you’ll be declined more often in the future because of mistakes you’re making now (that are probably overcome by your class or by the healer), then it’s worthwhile to understand what the log shows you and how you can improve.

What do you want to do?

P.S.

This is because you are not uploading your own logs, so the only logs in there are when someone else uploads a log that you participated in for that dungeon/raid event. If you upload your own logs and mark them public, then they will always reflect your most recent events (and the history of prior events will still be there).

As others have said, they can be useful, but many don’t know how to interpret them and your friend is not being helpful or he would tell you how to read them and how to make improvements.

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Preach has a YouTube video explaining what logs are, what they’re for, and why youd want to be a part of Warcraft logs.

Just lookup on YouTube “wow preach Warcraft logs”

He’s got 2 videos about it.

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most people have no idea what they’re looking at on logs. they just look at the ranking.

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nope they look at the lgo for TOFM any class that does the most damage must be good and anyone playing that spec will also do good damage.

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If your group isn’t struggling with the M+ and you’re having fun, then you’re doing well. If you’re going to use the logs, maybe use them in conjunction with https://wowanalyzer.com/ it will tell you what your opportunities are. I find that to be very helpful for improving my rotation (but I am also a dps).

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I just dont want people thinking im a bad tank based off some logs that I dont even understand myself. Ive seen a drop down, that lets me sort the charts by Points, SPeed, Damage, and Healing. I dont see anything that lets me see stats by damage mitigated.

PS. Thank you everyone for your responses and input. Much appreciated.

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I tried to click on the logs for some of your M+ fights, but there are no logs. Your scores are all drawn from leader-board data. You could learn to log your own runs and upload the data for parsing, but I’m not sure I’d bother.

I wouldn’t worry too much until you start feeling you’re not getting into M+ groups because of your % ranking on Warcraft Logs. Your friend may be obsessed with WC Logs, but most mid-to-high key groups are only going to be concerned with your Raider IO score (if even that), which is much simpler to understand and improve.

If you really insist on using WC Logs, you’ll want to read the Getting Started Guide to record and upload/parse your logs, as well as the Rankings Guide to understand your metrics.

As a starter for what you already see for Your M+ Scores:
Best % is your best relative ranking among other Brewmaster tanks in that dungeon (i.e., Tirna Scithe is best among all dungeons so far). This bounded between 0% (worst) and 100% (best). Timing higher keys likely helps improve this value, but the scoring method isn’t fully disclosed by WC Logs. It might just be difficulty and over/under time like Raider IO uses for M+, but who knows? For raids with a log there’s much more data (like mitigation by tanks and how much uptime you had with abilities for DPS).

Highest Points is the raw score associated with your Best % ranking and can be ignored in favor of the earlier metric.

Runs is how many times you’ve run that dungeon. Useful for others to see if your Med % is across many runs or just a single run.

Fastest shows your fastest time completing that dungeon. Not as useful as Raider IO’s indication of whether you 2-chested or 3-chested, but it’s the same data, different view.

Med is your median % ranking. If you have multiple runs, then this is the relative rank % that is in the middle of your ranks (e.g., three runs at 80, 50, 40 will be median of 50). If you have a single run, it’s the same as your Best %. Again, this is useful if people want to see consistency in your rank %. More “good” runs helps raise this value (again scoring not disclosed).

All Stars is an alternative scoring metric that can mostly be ignored unless you’re shooting for top-20 leaderboard status.

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I have no idea what logs are for except putting into wowanalyzer so I can feel bad about myself.

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Logs are good for basic performance feedback (role depending) and ego stroking. Little else. I can ignore mechanics and get that purple parse easy, or I can focus mechanics so the group has as better chance at success and maybe risk a blue parse due to downtime.

What really helps is running that log through WoW Analyzer and seeing where you can actually make some improvements.

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That site does an exceptionally bad job at explaining what their numbers represent and the methodologies used to get to them.

They also make a lot of editorial decisions on what damage is worth more.

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Thank you for this detailed reply. I probably wont pay much attention to warcraft logs. I’ll just worry about timing higher keys.

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The nice thing about wowanalyzer is it tells you where you can improve. I found it helped me improve my rotation because it showed me what spells I wasn’t casting enough. I have found it to be very helpful. What I try not to do is to compare myself to others in the logs. There are too many variables that can cause one person’s performance to be better than yours might be.