Think we might see Hakkar in DF…green flight really seem to take on the chin in that dungeon.
thoughts?
We defeated Hakkar in Shadowlands. The Emerald Nightmare and it’s effect on the green dragons + the loss of one of Y’sera’s consorts to the Emerald Nightmare as part of the Sunken Temple dungeon is something that may be mentioned in DF.
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The way the blood of Hakkar induced the (revealed to be many years later Old God origin) nightmare on Green Dragons is a plot thread Blizzard has THOROUGHLY dropped and swerved
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The Sunken Temple was built by the Atal’ai as a place of worship to continue worshipping the blood god Hakkar & a place to where Hakkar’s physical form could be brought into Azeroth after they were defeated in the prior Gurubashi Civil War.
It’s connection to the Green Dragonflight is that the Green Dragonflight had discovered this and utterly destroyed the temple and the Atal’ai within, though some did survive their wrath and continued the worship of the Blood God, and as Baalsamael mentioned prior, Hakkar’s blood induced the Emerald Nightmare upon the Green Dragonflight that had remained to guard the temple.
Bwonsamdi told us that Hakkar would return. So it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
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Would they make him a boss in two back to back expansions though? Unless they bring him back as a Raid boss, but what kind of raid would that be? another troll themed raid?
Warlord Zaela went from a raid boss at the end of Mists to a dungeon boss at the start of WoD. Plus there’s been a few times were we’ve fought bosses more once within the same expansion as seen with Kael’thas in BC.
It would be more likely since Hakkar is more connected with trolls. So if Hakkar is going to feature in DF, then he could be involved with the primordial trolls or Blizzard could play with his connection to the nightmare and thus tie him to the Green Dragonflight story for DF.
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The one thing I noticed is that Eranikus never showed up in the Shadowlands. Kind of feel bad about d/e that trinket now. Don’t tell Ysera.
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you seem to know your stuff so let me ask you this: Is there any relations between Hakkar and blood trolls of Nazmir?
If “The King of Diamonds been made a pawn” whisper is anything to fall on, then its possible that Azeroth is not free of the influence of Old Gods like Magni said at the end of BFA. Hakkar’s blood induce emerald nightmare and Emerald Nightmare was created by the old gods, (N’Zoth) then its possible that 11.0 could be an old god expansion. Hakkar could make a return but not a dungeon/raid boss in 10.0.
I thought Dragons go to a different cosmic force as in Shadowlands are for the mortals not the draconic. Elune forcing Ysera into shadowlands was a very special event as Ysera isn’t supposed to be in the Shadowlands. Otherwise, we would have seen Malygos, Neltharian (Deathwing…can’t spell), and others I am sure. right?
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Any trolls can summon Hakkar. His faint connection to the blood trolls would have been through a convocation at Zul’Gurub. Blood trolls worship Hireek, one of his high priests would have been sent to Zul’Gurub.
But, aside from that there is nothing that ties Hakkar to the blood trolls. Blood trolls worship G’huun. The blood plauge both produce is similar.
I am not Baal, but your question could be easily answered.
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I strongly suspect 10.0 is an Old God expansion, and will feature new Emerald Nightmare content.
As of Chronicle there is no connection between Hakkar and the Nightmare corruption inside Sunken Temple.
The old lore was they infused the dragons with Hakkars corrupted blood, which connected them to the Nightmare. That’s not the case anymore. The lore post-Chronicle is the Nightmare came in and infected the dragons completely separate from Hakkar while they were guarding the ruins, and the Atal’ai used the disoriention it caused among the dragons to invade the ruins.
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None that was explicitly confirmed which is Yet Another Missed Opportunity
Huh. It didnt occur to me until just now how bizarre it is Hakkar had nothing to do with a faction of blood magic wielding troll heretics. Thats like his whole deal.
Tbf I think it does speak to the story’s quality that I didn’t think about that. And off top I’m not sure what roll he’d play beyond perhaps helping us sort out G’hunn. Not out of kindness but simply because he doesn’t want a rival.
But that’s what Bwomsamdi was already doing, and I doubt Hakkar would’ve been as memorable, so I guess I can’t fault them. But yeah more than a little weird he doesn’t even get a mention.
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Making a brand new never-before-seen evil blood god connected to troll history, when there was already an evil blood god connected to troll history, was one of BfA’s more baffling decisions.
There is nothing G’huun did that Hakkar couldn’t have also done. They didn’t need to pull a secret hidden Old God out of their butts.
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Eh. I did think the concept of an ancient temple gradually becoming a bioweapons research lab was pretty nifty conceptually. But I am an easy lay for that kinda pulpy horror sci fi stuff.
I still firmly believe BFA would’ve been better received if it kept it’s focus on exploration, expeditons and wibbly wobbly Old God madness. They could’ve even kept the faction war stuff - just make it a preexisting Zandalari and Kul Tiran war the Horde and Alliance get pulled into.
Because seriously outside the opening story beat and mission tables the actual battling for Azeroth was pretty confined to just those two islands. Never really felt like we were fighting over anything else.
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I mean pretty much Hakkar in that dungeon was a easy target dummy where in the raid in Zul’gurub. He should have been tougher.
He was also a mere shadow of his former self. He wasn’t even fully summoned when we awaken his skeleton