10/26/2018 08:17 PMPosted by
Humfry
I've never gotten into the whole rp by pretending, the only rp I prefer is the standard horde vs alliance.
One time someone invited me to moon guard
Your mistake was not heeding that server's reputation and accepting the invite.
10/26/2018 08:20 PMPosted by
Rözen
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What kind of RP are you even referring to?
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Keep Moan Guard out of this, damn it. We don't need them infecting Classic with their virtual STDs.
Any and all kinds of RP. the tamest RP you can think of to ERP. It was looked down upon. Some people still did it... Some people gave them grief in trade.. some people mostly ignored them.
Sounds like the non-RPers had the run of that RP server then.
every time you click okay with an RP or RPPvP server selected on the realm selection screen, a conformation window should pop up, saying something like
"the RP in RP and RPPvP stands for role-playing, which not only means that most players on this server will say things that would be out of place on other servers, such as "I, <name>, the renowned and valiant knight, challenge thee to an honorable duel!" or "Greetings, fellow adventurer; have you any information as to the whereabouts of Baron Rivendare?", but you will also be expected to go along with these people, and to say such things yourself on a regular basis on these servers. You should pick a different server if that sounds unappealing to you."
probably shouldn't use the honorable duel example, though
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every time you click okay with an RP or RPPvP server selected on the realm selection screen, a conformation window should pop up, saying something like
"the RP in RP and RPPvP stands for role-playing, which means that most players on this server will not only say things that would be out of place on other servers, such as "I, <name>, the renowned and valiant knight, challenge thee to an honorable duel!" or "Greetings, fellow adventurer; have you any information as to the whereabouts of Baron Rivendare?", but you will also be expected to go along with these people, and to say comparable things yourself on these servers. You should pick a different server if that sounds unappealing to you."
probably shouldn't use the honorable duel example, though
Honestly whoever clicks to join that server would probably click yes anyway whether it appeals to them or not.
Honestly whoever clicks to join that server would probably click yes anyway whether it appeals to them or not.
in theory, some of the people who would read that would think that the server is full of weirdos and/or losers(compared to other WoW players)
I remember when Feathermoon had a lively RP feeling to it.
I remember when the server was coming down for the 1.02 patch, me and another NE went into a NE inn to log out and rather then log out early, started amusing ourselves by RP'ing it was the end of the world coming as the time ticked down.
There was also a guy in a SW bar who would talk to you about real life problems like a real bar tender. You did it in character and he was in character. He was a really cool guy.
I pretty much never see stuff like that now.
Honestly whoever clicks to join that server would probably click yes anyway whether it appeals to them or not.
in theory, some of the people who would read that would think that the server is full of weirdos and/or losers(compared to other WoW players)
Tell me something... do you even read the TOS before clicking "I Agree?"
I highly doubt very many players do that. The system you had in mind would be the same story.
<span class="truncated">...</span>in theory, some of the people who would read that would think that the server is full of weirdos and/or losers(compared to other WoW players)
Tell me something... do you even read the TOS before clicking "I Agree?"
I highly doubt very many players do that. The system you had in mind would be the same story.
I didn't say that I'd think that; I've actually RPed before(in a different game), it can be pretty fun
also, pretty much noone reads the ToS, and most people back in the days of vanilla(at least kids in school and high school) thought that games like WoW were for losers; I'd actually avoided the game like the plague until my big brother showed me how fun it could be
but you're right, these days its different; I guess that was just the old days talking there.. although I could easily imagine people still calling RPers weirdos
I don't mind Rping, it the Metagame that turns me off.
10/25/2018 11:57 PMPosted by
Nurdan
As anyone who has played on a RP server can tell you, probably less than ten percent of people who play on RP servers have any interest in roleplaying.
This trend of people uninterested in RP rolling on RP servers started way back in vanilla, when RP servers developed a reputation for being laid back and casual, which made people decide to play there not because they care about RP, but because they want to be surrounded by "mature" people (or in some people's cases, they wanted to be on a server filled with "baddies" so they're "best" player around), not to mention all the people who rolled there without paying attention to the server tag.
I was reading a thread where people were talking about differences between PvP and PvE servers, and someone in it encouraged people to play on RP-PvP servers because of the perceived maturity of people who play on RP servers. So it seems very likely that the same thing will happen again.
Can anything be done to preserve RP servers for RP crowd and avoid their death again? Obviously Blizzard can't police the server and ban people who don't RP. So what else is there?
Are those people hindering you from rp'ing?
Whose to say whether they are participating in rp or not.
If a player follows the rp server rules and causes no drama or grief to rp'ers then there is no issue.
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Tell me something... do you even read the TOS before clicking "I Agree?"
I highly doubt very many players do that. The system you had in mind would be the same story.
I didn't say that I'd think that; I've actually RPed before, it can be pretty fun
also, pretty much noone reads the ToS
My apologies if I came off as aggressive, it's hard to convey tone through text. I was just trying to make a point about how people don't even really read what they click "Yes" to when they just wanna get into somewhere. I wasn't even on you about whether you RP'd or not.
You're alright man. :)
10/26/2018 09:02 PMPosted by
Tuathaa
10/25/2018 11:57 PMPosted by
Nurdan
As anyone who has played on a RP server can tell you, probably less than ten percent of people who play on RP servers have any interest in roleplaying.
This trend of people uninterested in RP rolling on RP servers started way back in vanilla, when RP servers developed a reputation for being laid back and casual, which made people decide to play there not because they care about RP, but because they want to be surrounded by "mature" people (or in some people's cases, they wanted to be on a server filled with "baddies" so they're "best" player around), not to mention all the people who rolled there without paying attention to the server tag.
I was reading a thread where people were talking about differences between PvP and PvE servers, and someone in it encouraged people to play on RP-PvP servers because of the perceived maturity of people who play on RP servers. So it seems very likely that the same thing will happen again.
Can anything be done to preserve RP servers for RP crowd and avoid their death again? Obviously Blizzard can't police the server and ban people who don't RP. So what else is there?
Are those people hindering you from rp'ing?
Speaking as an RP'er myself on an RP realm, it does kill the immersion when you see people standing around in an active RP location talking to each other in leetspeak without the brackets indicating you're out of character.
Whose to say whether they are participating in rp or not.
If what you're witnessing is what I just described above, it's a safe bet the correct answer is "not."
If a player follows the rp server rules and causes no drama or grief to rp'ers then there is no issue.
The actual RP server rules set forth by Blizzard state that the RP servers are for RP'ers only. Simply being there is a violation of the TOS if you have no intention of participating.
Keep Moan Guard out of this, damn it. We don't need them infecting Classic with their virtual STDs.
Those are tourists from your and other servers for the most part, we have plenty of our own too but they all mainly keep to their own area. Anyone over level 10 can easily avoid them.
Besides, if you're a fan of Jerry Springer and Benny Hill, it can be pretty amusing once in a while...just to watch, I mean.
Go RP-PVP instead of RP-PVE, make sure to join a non-meme server (IE not the highest populated RP server), join a good RP+raiding guild and finally, ignore non-RPers if you want to foster RP on your RP server.
I'm rolling on RP servers because yes the community is going to be better naturally from my MMO experiences, RP is fun and adds an extra layer to keep the game interesting (and further attaches you to your character), names will be unique instead of generic low-effort puns (wow, a Tauren with beef or angus in their name? Revolutionary!) and so there's no reason not to.
...I didn't say that I'd think that; I've actually RPed before, it can be pretty fun
also, pretty much noone reads the ToS
My apologies if I came off as aggressive, it's hard to convey tone through text. I was just trying to make a point about how people don't even really read what they click "Yes" to when they just wanna get into somewhere. I wasn't even on you about whether you RP'd or not.
You're alright man. :)
10/26/2018 09:02 PMPosted by
Tuathaa
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Are those people hindering you from rp'ing?
Speaking as an RP'er myself on an RP realm, it does kill the immersion when you see people standing around in an active RP location talking to each other in leetspeak without the brackets indicating you're out of character.
Whose to say whether they are participating in rp or not.
If what you're witnessing is what I just described above, it's a safe bet the correct answer is "not."
If a player follows the rp server rules and causes no drama or grief to rp'ers then there is no issue.
The actual RP server rules set forth by Blizzard state that the RP servers are for RP'ers only. Simply being there is a violation of the TOS if you have no intention of participating.
Rp'ers do the exact same thing you are describing also.
In fact I have seen active rp'ers doing exactly as you describe as far as standing around and not using ooc brackets far more than non rp'ers.
If a person is following the rules then they are in no violation of the tos.
Just because an individual doesn't ascribe to the same to rule set you do does not mean they not rp'ing.
Rp servers in general can foster dbag behaviour far more than any other server because all the person has to use as a defenses is that they were role-playing.
Basically what you want is if the person has no intentions of actively role-playing and following your rule set then they should not even bother logging in. Doesn't matter if they are just checking the ah or mail box if they are not going to rp then off to another server.
I have exclusively played on rp servers since TBC and I hate to tell you what killed rp is the rp'ers. Goldshire and Silvermoon has chased away more player's than it has ever attracted.
How about you police your own community before you attack another.
How do you propose to keep non-role players off of RP servers?
And what exactly do you consider essential to meeting the RP "standards"? What does a person have to do to be called an RP'er?
Legit question - not everyone role plays in the same method and I'm honestly curious.
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My apologies if I came off as aggressive, it's hard to convey tone through text. I was just trying to make a point about how people don't even really read what they click "Yes" to when they just wanna get into somewhere. I wasn't even on you about whether you RP'd or not.
You're alright man. :)
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Speaking as an RP'er myself on an RP realm, it does kill the immersion when you see people standing around in an active RP location talking to each other in leetspeak without the brackets indicating you're out of character.
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If what you're witnessing is what I just described above, it's a safe bet the correct answer is "not."
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The actual RP server rules set forth by Blizzard state that the RP servers are for RP'ers only. Simply being there is a violation of the TOS if you have no intention of participating.
Rp'ers do the exact same thing you are describing also.
In fact I have seen active rp'ers doing exactly as you describe as far as standing around and not using ooc brackets far more than non rp'ers.
If a person is following the rules then they are in no violation of the tos.
Just because an individual doesn't ascribe to the same to rule set you do does not mean they not rp'ing.
Rp servers in general can foster dbag behaviour far more than any other server because all the person has to use as a defenses is that they were role-playing.
Basically what you want is if the person has no intentions of actively role-playing and following your rule set then they should not even bother logging in. Doesn't matter if they are just checking the ah or mail box if they are not going to rp then off to another server.
I have exclusively played on rp servers since TBC and I hate to tell you what killed rp is the rp'ers. Goldshire and Silvermoon has chased away more player's than it has ever attracted.
How about you police your own community before you attack another.
I'm not attacking anyone, sir. I don't attack, I retaliate. But, that being said, I see nothing here to retaliate to.
You and I have two completely different experiences, so let's just agree to disagree and shake on it like the two responsible adults we are, okay? :)
How do you propose to keep non-role players off of RP servers?
And what exactly do you consider essential to meeting the RP "standards"? What does a person have to do to be called an RP'er?
Roleplayers (the good ones, anyway) typically create a character, and then roleplay as that character, in the context of the fictional universe they're RP'ing in, while trying not to break established lore. They do NOT roleplay as a person playing a virtual toon in a video game. That's Deadpool levels of fourth wall breaking and doesn't jive with the environment. (Not hating on Deadpool btw, that movie was fking awesome)
As for how to keep the non-RP'ers out, well... I can't really answer that to my own satisfaction, let alone yours.
How do you propose to keep non-role players off of RP servers?
And what exactly do you consider essential to meeting the RP "standards"? What does a person have to do to be called an RP'er?
I am thinking that a person has to follow the same rule set of the op.
Apparently there is only one way to rp and if it's not the op's way then it's wrong
They pretty much killed RP, stabbed it in the heart, with right click to report feature.
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Rp'ers do the exact same thing you are describing also.
In fact I have seen active rp'ers doing exactly as you describe as far as standing around and not using ooc brackets far more than non rp'ers.
If a person is following the rules then they are in no violation of the tos.
Just because an individual doesn't ascribe to the same to rule set you do does not mean they not rp'ing.
Rp servers in general can foster dbag behaviour far more than any other server because all the person has to use as a defenses is that they were role-playing.
Basically what you want is if the person has no intentions of actively role-playing and following your rule set then they should not even bother logging in. Doesn't matter if they are just checking the ah or mail box if they are not going to rp then off to another server.
I have exclusively played on rp servers since TBC and I hate to tell you what killed rp is the rp'ers. Goldshire and Silvermoon has chased away more player's than it has ever attracted.
How about you police your own community before you attack another.
I'm not attacking anyone, sir. I don't attack, I retaliate. But, that being said, I see nothing here to retaliate to.
You and I have two completely different experiences, so let's just agree to disagree and shake on it like the two responsible adults we are, okay? :)
How do you propose to keep non-role players off of RP servers?
And what exactly do you consider essential to meeting the RP "standards"? What does a person have to do to be called an RP'er?
Roleplayers typically create a character, and then roleplay as that character. They do NOT roleplay as a person playing a virtual toon in a video game. That's Deadpool levels of fourth wall breaking and doesn't jive with the environment. (Not hating on Deadpool btw, that movie was fking awesome)
As for how to keep the non-RP'ers out, well... I can't really answer that to my own satisfaction, let alone yours.
No worries.
Rp servers by themselves are fickle things especially when you have several 1000 player's all trying to have a good time.
Is it rude to disrupt another person's rp? Most definitely but because it happens doesn't mean the people are not roleplayers or roleplaying it just means their buttheads
10/26/2018 09:32 PMPosted by
Tuathaa
I am thinking that a person has to follow the same rule set of the op.
Apparently there is only one way to rp and if it's not the op's way then it's wrong
That's what killed the RP servers on retail, in my opinion.