Can Primal Wrath Replace Rip?

Maybe I am missing something but Primal Wrath tooltip states the skill will apply Rip + additional DOT. However, reading some of the online guides, they suggest the use of Rip for single target.

Why is this the case?

Rip applies the DoT for longer than Primal Wrath

As Zalgo mentioned, Rip lasts twice as long as Primal Wrath, and Rip also does more damage. Did you even bother looking at the abilities?

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I’m not in the game right now, but I’m almost certain this is incorrect. I suppose it effectively does more damage because it last longer, but the amount of damage per tick done by the regular version of Rip is identical to that done by the Primal Wrath version of Rip.

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Did you?

Primal wrath applies Rip. It’s the exact same spell. There is no “primal wrath version” of rip. The only difference is the duration.

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Reapplication frequency is different since PW will only tick Rip for a short duration.

If you’re tunneling a single target, you can spend that CP on other stuff (being bitey) instead of constantly reapplying rip bleed.

Rip on single target is more damage per energy spent. Simply put it’s more efficient. However with a certain cursed build you can spam primal wrath with a very marginal loss on ST but with the upcoming tuning (which I feel like was targeted at builds like this) that will stop being a thing.

Captain save a hoe, how about we stop protecting the feelings of people that post on the forums in place of reading the abilities?

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Umm…. What?

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Because it’s okay for someone to come and ask for clarification to better understand something.

If it’s causing anyone mental anguish to answer a question about a video game on the Internet for this person, I highly recommend they click out of the thread and move on.

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Which in turn increases the damage? The question was what is the difference between the two, the answer is not none.

He’s saying the OP created a post instead of taking the time to compare the 2 abilities and you’re enabling.

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Not from rip, Which is what you incorrectly stated.

Pressing Rip once every 24 seconds vs pressing PW every 12 will produce the exact same damage from rip.

Is it efficient? Absolutely not. You’ll get more damage from spending those combo points on bites. But Rip absolutely does not do more damage than PW.

Nobody said this?!!!

Like……what?

I clearly started that the difference between the two was the duration.

Quoted it for you, since you missed it.

I’m providing the correct information.

You’re not.
You just being rude for no apparent reason.

Kick rocks.

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You’re wrong. An energy/cp based class having to reapply dots more frequently but for the same amount of damage directly impacts your dmg potential, therefore, Rip does more dmg than Primal Wrath ST.

Disagreeing with someone is not the same thing as being rude.

This you?

Lol.

About what exactly?
Nothing I have stated here is incorrect.
Feel free to quote it.

You goofed up and did a piss poor job explaining yourself which immediately led to more confusion in this thread.

Case in point….

Perhaps if you had spent more time explaining yourself and less time being a condescending jerk, this could have been avoided.

But …. Here we are.

Yes.
Using rip vs primal wrath in ST is more efficient use of energy/CP.

Nobody ever argued this. In fact, it’s been explained multiple times ad nauseam.

But this….

Deliberately vague and misleading, and also incorrect, since PW has direct damage as well. If you’re killing a target that will die sooner than 24 seconds, using PW is actually the better option. It’s not as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be.

You’re not being the least bit helpful for a struggling player simply seeking helpful advice.

You’re being a jerk.

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You don’t take criticism and differing opinions very well do you?

LOL!
Now youre projecting.

I asked you to prove what I said was incorrect. Your lack of a reply is telling.

Meanwhile, not only have I explained the differences between Rip and PW, but I have outlined that, more often than not, PW is the smarter play. (directly contradicting your blatantly false comments)

Its clear you have nothing more to offer this thread.
So… as I instructed earlier.

Kick rocks.

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Your assumption is incorrect. In fact, The OPs question was answered by Zalgo, the second poster, you added nothing, aside from digressing. If it makes you feel better, you contributed | | that much.

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Notice hes deflecting, rather than defending his lies?

Wrong again…

heres why…,

…and yet you couldn’t help yourself. All you managed to accomplish here is make yourself look like a jerk and stir confusion with your vague and incorrect comments.

My presence here is directly in response to your unwanted, (and by your own admission), unneeded reply.

You only have yourself to blame.

Blatantly false. If Im killing a mob that will die in 10-15 seconds (Which occurs quite often) PW will do more damage than pressing rip would have.

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I would tell you to quit while you’re ahead kid but that ship burned a long time ago :crazy_face: