The title. I want to gank stupid horde in Hillsbrad in phase 2 but want to maintain my rank. I’m fine with losing Honor for that week but don’t want to get deranked.
Yes, getting dks can derank you.
Your rank cannot decay. You can derank. Do not confuse the two.
The only one confused here is you. There was no mention or suggestion of a decay.
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Ty. I guess its time to make a rogue then.
Decay is a thing that happens normally. Do you not know about classic PvP grind?
It might not derank you actually – when they implemented this new honor system in Classic Era, a few players found a way to game the system using DHKs to slightly derank, then gain larger weekly progression based on the amount of honor they had (it would consider them as having x honor at 80-90% of a lower pvp rank, so they would move into the next rank at a higher progression).
I remember they had removed DHKs actually deranking you due to the above situation, but this was on Classic Era, so DHKs may still have the ability to derank you on SOD.
They do. Had someone kill the civilian alli quest giver on the west side of Ash, near our FP. During the event lol
Went back down to grunt.
They’re really going to need to adjust SoD’s DHK/deranking system in the next phases.
As we progress to higher ranks, it’s going to be less and less acceptable to be put back an entire rank’s worth of grind just because someone in your group incidentally killed a civilian with AoE.
As-is the system has no purpose. Many questgiving NPCs aren’t even tagged civilians, so it doesn’t stop people from griefing those.
I may be confused here but I believe the question was about DKs deranking us.
They do de-rank you. I killed a night elf civilian outside zoram and deranked myself from seargent to grunt.
Shaking my smh
it’s all good
Ah I see, so probably doenst have the Classic Era DHK change implemented. Since ranking up to rank 3 can be done in a few days, its not really something they will need to worry about yet.
Once we get to higher ranks 7+, then the above “DHK/derank game” can really boost rank progression (due to honor thresholds/caps that need to be hit per each rank)
whats an example of that in action?
I think we can probably find a thread/blue post in Classic Era side about it, but from my understanding some players were intentionally getting DHKs in order to derank to 80-90% of their current rank.
Basically each rank has an honor cap or threshold to receive maximum rank progression, and the honor cap amount increases by each rank. So just an example, but if you had 100k honor at Rank 8 (0%), it might not hit the honor cap for maximum rank increase at Rank 8, so you would only go up to Rank 8 (25%).
If you were to get a DHK to derank yourself to rank 7 (80-90%), then 100k honor could hit the honor cap required for rank 7 maximum rank progression, and you would end up at rank 8 (50-60%) on weekly reset.
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that’s nuts. it’s still that way, isn’t it? so this applies and you can still cheese this way?
Yup seems like it if people are reporting DHKs deranking them in SOD. Will be something they need to adjust later on once higher ranks are released and the honor caps are increased.
dhks should be removed from the game.
if you dont want a civilian killed make it have the same tag as child npcs in the game and make them friendly to everyone and immune to damage.
dishonorable kills are very bad for any type of emergent pvp gameplay.
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i remember the patch they were first added. it was to stop mass raids into early quest zones by players just to grief. the outcry was absolutely intense.
but it doesn’t really serve a purpose anymore. no one has an incentive to run mass raids into leveling towns
EDIT: does look like they fixed it:
I do hope they remove DHKs by 60. Literally cannot City Raid in Classic because of DHKs lol, kind of depressing.