Since it’s possible Archimonde survived, even blizz isn’t sure, if he comes back do you think he’s powerful enough, and has enough authority/respect/fear to hold what’s left of the legion together and keep it more or less on track of it’s mission? He can’t replace sargeras, but there’s also no other demon left that I can think of that could even hope to oppose Archimondes claim to rule the legion.
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The Legion hasn’t just lost big names like Sargeras and Kil’jaeden. The Legion has lost its high command, portal network, master engineer, and primary world soul. Assuming Archimonde was alive, most - if not all - of the resources available to him that made the Legion such a deadly organized force are now completely gone.
And even if he could hold it together, there’s no telling if there even is a mission for many demons without Sargeras. So no. No, Archimonde likely couldn’t hold it together.
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They haven’t lost all of their high command, Mannoroth and Tichondrius should still be alive/respawnable. They lost a lot of infrastructure and their organized respawn point, so they may have to slow down their pace on attacking world’s, but shouldn’t have to outright stop it.
I’m talking about the Antoran High Command. They’ve been stated to be the brain behind the Legion’s military might, and a huge factor as to why the Burning Crusade was so successful. Mannoroth and Tichondrius - assuming they DO reconstitute, which frankly, they might not - might be able to corral and command things. But they’ll never be a Burning Legion in the same way again after the losses sustained.
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In addition to the above, Sargeras the one who had the nobleish goal of stopping the void lords from consuming the universe. Archimonde wouldn’t care enough to try and keep it together. Maybe he’d reforge it into something else and kill anyone who doesn’t want to join him but I doubt he’d keep it going as is.
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Likely he would just use the remmains of the Legion to gather more power from other sources. After all his primary trait was the thirst of power.
Maybe he would ally himself with some powerful entity that Blizzard will introduce very soon
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Mannoroth and Tichondrius will respawn as they were not killed in the twisting nether or a place heavily tied to it. Nor were they killed on a particularly fel corrupted spot. I get that officially the Antoran high command ran things, but they did not do so in a hands on kind of way, they were background strategists like Kil’jaeden. Archimonde was the one who usually took the plans and actually made them happen. The legion won’t be as powerful as before, but I’d argue even a weakened legion is still probably the most powerful force in the universe.
For the most powerful force in the universe, they sure lost pretty damn hard when they WEREN’T a scattered mess.
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That’s what happens when your leader doesn’t think with his upstairs brain. Sargeras wanted to bone Azeroth not destroy it and that was the one time he wasn’t successful in conquering a world.
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If WoW lasts long enough, then sure. It might be interesting to see how they make him the next big bad.
My impression of Archimonde has always been that he’s basically just a souped-up thug. He doesn’t have the same kind of overarching plan as Kil’jaeden and Sargeras, he just craved power for its own sake. I believe it’s even been stated that his goal in Warcraft 3 was to absorb the power from Nordrassil so that he could hopefully become even more powerful than Sargeras and usurp his position. Given all that, if he’s still out there my guess is that he is running a much smaller, stripped down version of the Legion and using it to push people around and seek more power.
Well, the Demons existed before Sargeras and they’ll exist long after.
Sargeras was just the guy who whipped them into a frenzy and turned them into an Army.
If that’s all they need, Archimonde can manage that. He’ll just think twice before confronting Azeroth again any time soon.
But, that’s also why Illidan’s out there, hunting them all down.
He’s determined to never let them regroup.
So the real question is, can Archimonde contend with a Demon Hunter on a blazing warpath across the cosmos?
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Gotta pity the guy, he’s never had a girlfriend since the universe began. The only other female Titan was Eonar, and pretty sure she’s his older brother, Aman’thuls girl.
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No wonder Illidan was so taken with him…
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If I’m not mistaken, when we killed Argus, we killed the Legions ability to reform in the Twisting Nether endlessly right?
So with that ability gone, would the Demons still reforming even be able to complete the process? I would think that they would fade to nothing since there is nothing there to sustain the re-spawning process.
Or am I possibly missing something?
No, demons have always had that ability, even prior to Argus, which is why Sargeras originally imprisoned demons on Mardum, because he couldn’t permanently kill them. Argus just made it so they respawn in a specific place to keep them organized.
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Gotcha, if that’s the case, and he can comeback… well, unless Blizzard decides to bring them back in some capacity, I’m going to say no from a purely logistical standpoint.
Remember, even Sargeras needed to set up structured command. After we were done with them, and the more than likely inevitable infighting for control, and not to mention typically violent and aggressive nature of Demons anyway, I’m not sure he would be able to muster up more than a large rabble.
I see the fall of the Legion similar to the Fall of the Empire (in Star Wars Legends). There are going to be many Warlords attempting to carve out power for themselves, and while a unifying power may emerge occasionally, they very nature they are run by will continually tear it apart.
In short, for the Legion to function in a meaningful capacity, I believe it’s Sargeras or bust.
I thought releasing all the imprisoned Titan souls removed the Legion’s ability to bring demons back.
No, for the millionth time, demons naturally have the ability to respawn, see the reason why Sargeras created Mardum.
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Yes, which make the whole Argus thing even more stupid.
Also people tend to immediately associate Demon = Burning Legion, Demon is the name given to any creature with their soul bound to the Twisting Nether.
As for the question at hand Grandblade pretty much summed it up.
Not only that but they’re in EXTREME disarray, they lost the World Soul to be able to reincarnate directly in Argus, so let’s assume Archimonde somehow ‘‘Holds it together’’. To be able to rally every single demon loyal to the Burning Legion would be a ginormous if not impossible task.
This is because:
a) The world soul served not only as means of reincarnation but also as sort of a ‘‘recall’’ tool. Similar to the already mentioned Mardum.
b) The gateways in Antorus that connected to some Legion homeworlds are a goner, since the murder hobos cleaned Antorus of loot in every corner.
Not to mention without the Dark Titan they pretty much have 0 motivation or I’d assume morale.
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