Can anyone seriously claim there's a better mmorpg than wow out there?

I wish WoW had better world-building. Take Ardenweald. We have cool, “organic” sounding places like Tirna Vaal. And then Glitterfall Basin. What? Is there even a native language in the Shadowlands or does everyone speak common regardless of where they’re from. Aliothe - a wild God from another planet - doesn’t seem to have any native phrase or saying.

It is definitely for the sake of ease, but even a random phrase in thalassian is easy to come by for the Sin’dorei.

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Yeah depending on your likes.

Story mode will be - Swtor
Never being behind the curve - GW2
Weebo time - FF14

You do know you can move every element of the FF14 UI and change its size and scaling, right? As well as set up different UI templates that switch between solo and group play?

Tuesday has been maintenance day for as long as I can remember. You didn’t know that?

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Around right now . . . not sure since they all are not what they use to be imo. It is all subjective but Tera was my WoW killer when it released but they just destroyed that game to the point that it is just a completely different game then it’s launch version and it is crap now.

I liked Wildstar but that is gone. Had a crappy launch and never really recovered. :frowning_face: I miss that game and the only reason I am playing WoW at all is because Wildstar got shut down. Though they have private versions out there I haven’t kept up on them or even tried to get into them.

I liked GW2 but haven’t played in a while.

SWTOR isn’t bad but it was far better when it originally launched. It is not that good, especially story wise, as it was then.

Waiting on a new class for Neverwinter since it’s been YEARS since they got one and I’m tired of the old ones.

Never played FFXIV, ESO, or BDO. Bless was a fail so didn’t even try that even though I had high hopes for it before it launched. A.I.R, or Elyon now, was a game I wanted to play for the air vs land battles but it is made by the same company that made Tera and they are still using UE3 because they don’t want to pay for their employees to learn a better engine. Stupid imo. Won’t support idiot companies like that and UE3 sucked mio.

To each their own.

EDIT: Skyforge I had high hopes for on launch but they destroyed that game and most of it was instanced instead of open world and the group of us left it soon after launch. Not sure how it’s doing now but I didn’t like it.

Yeah ESO is fun, at least single player anyway. I’ve never tried any of the group content. Feels a lot like playing Skyrim with other people running around.

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I wouldn’t have quit LOTRO if most of my friends hadn’t left because of life issues that really reduced their play time.

I’m not sure why you all need to feel like you are playing “the best” mmorpg. Is your self-esteem so low you need to be validated by a video game you play?

Microsoft owns them now and I highly doubt they will let that cash cow sit around unused.

Besides honestly, Howard’s team has been really bad lately, with each game getting worse. (Last GOOD one was Oblivion imo) so I would love to see another dev with some passion and their heads out of their rears take a jab at it, because like you, I love the setting and wish they would do more with it.

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Nothing like an 8 hours shut down from morning to mid day sorry guys pay good money for a game so we can shut servers down at the worst time woke up ready to play NOPE NOT TODAY!

Well, that’s one thing about FFXIV that’s better.

They only do maintenance like once a month and it’s usually only an hour in the wee morning hours that almost nobody is on.

Ironically, according to the census there are more Americans playing than Japanese.

WoW is my favorite, but even I can admit that the competition gets better by the day.

But the most important thing (to me) in an MMO is the world and lore* - and WoW still beats out the others in this department, IMO. … At least for now.

( * ESO has some fantastic lore, and a great world, but the general gameplay loop makes me want die.)

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It’s funny you say this after there was just a 24 hr maintenance for 5.4 patch. :wink:

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It’s kind of disingenuous if you’re saying that ff14’s green humans (hyur) look remotely alien in the same way wow’s orc’s and goblins do. There’s a big differences in shapes chosen.

FF14 characters tend to have very human-like shapes and wow ones are exaggerated and stylized.

ESO - Fun gameplay both pve and pvp. Feels more involved than typical mmo, story is extremely boring and told in a very patronizing way like they are trying to explain the plot to a toddler.

FFXIV - Fun story, somewhat slow and low fantasy at first picks up in the expansions, lots of features tied to the story and unlocked with it. Instanced content is a bit of a mix for me. All the bosses have precise time bound scripted mechanics meaning the boss will always to the same thing at the same time so the learning curve is to memorize what to do in order rather than respond to a selection of mechanics.

GW2 - Fun combat system, especially pvp. Again story kinda boring and generic at least pre expansions since I haven’t played through those yet and I can’t really talk about endgame but seems like gathering materials to craft legendary gear. (Weaver is super fun)

They are all good games in their own way, I stick with wow because it’s the second mmo I’ve played. I know it the best, and I enjoy sticking my big swords into baddies

Makes sense to me, America’s population and percentage of youths being much larger than Japan!

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I came from XIV and I like WoW better than it by miles. PSO2 is kinda fun but meh. MMO’s are a dying breed honestly.

I have been praying to the gamer gods for this to be true. I was super excited when I read about the buyout, and I was immediately relieved.

That fact that it’s been more than a decade since Skyrim is beyond the pale. Whenever anyone asked after the next one, Bethesda would give scathing responses, and my feeling has always been, “Then let someone else have the title.” If your people don’t want to be known as “The Fallout and Elder Scrolls guys,” then sell those games to developer teams who DO want to be known that way.

Good grief, right?

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A ton better but they never caught on or had no forward momentum to get them going. My example of one I LOVE way more than wow: SWTOR. PoS running game with so many issues that it never took off. People honestly didn’t give it a 2nd chance right away, so we go back to wow.

Wow is like your dad’s old station wagon, sure, you want to drive a badace car/truck, but it’s the only reliable one around that you have; so you drive it. But even dad’s car is going to have to be replaced because it’s to the point of unreliable and scary.

and unfortunately, this is why blizzard gets away with all they do.

WoW benefits IMMENSELY from its historical popularity, and as a result a big dose of sunk cost fallacy. This allows them to push out a product that is comparatively subpar these days – because the cost of abandoning 15 year old characters, guilds, etc to go play a new game that is supposed to be better is just too much of a risk for a lot of folks.

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