Wow certainly has the biggest world(s) to roam around in.
I’m not saying it does, but it’s odd.
I actually dont believe that. I think a lot of mmorpgs that did one specific thing well did most their other game mechanics poorly. PVP in PVE mmorpgs has always sucked. No loss mechanics meant pvp had little meaning…this has been the case with just about every single mmorpg ever released that had PVE and PVP coexisting system.
Now imo, PVP works for games like darkfall or EVE online, where its part of the economy with loss mechanics…but those games scare all the adults with pixle loss no matter how much sense it makes when you actually look at it (your not losing raid gear)
I think MOBA’s rightfully drained most PVPers out of MMORPGS. Its just a better PVP delivery system.
Graphics is always a thing that wow will struggle with. However many other games with photorealism will look awful in a decade, wow will always have its stylized awful lol.
Ill be honest, i think the only thing that really separates WOW and the other big old MMORPGS is graphics, and yes some players are so unbelievably hung up on graphics wow will never be an option, no matter how much they would enjoy the games mechanics.
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every mmo for pc has its on type of communities, this is the single most important thing.
Active communities mean more to do with people who will matter to you.
For me GW2 was amazing when it came out (2012) wow wasn’t as hot as it was.
considering the amount of GW2 features wow has adapted it tells me they(blizzard) knew it was a good game. As GW2 made the best mmo’s list of 2012 and MOP did not.
The other mmorpg I played the most was SWTOR. I enjoyed it for the most part. I especially loved Huttball! But it could have been because it came out during Cata, which I found very disappointing. I tried Wildstar, but meh.
I have no claim, but wish I did.
MMoRPGs must not be as profitable as we thought. If they were MSN, Amazon and Google would have made the Game of games to put the others out of business.
Gonna disagree with you on that. Elder scrolls online is much more alive. Lore books everywhere. Artifact system that works. Lore of the races expanded upon. Every npc is voice acted. Most of the world can be visited. Has the benefit of single player games to expand and really explore the lore. Eso does have its issues and retcons (bosmer racials for example) but not nearly as bad as WoW.
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But even that is almost entirely subjective, pick one MMO and the 25% (or75%) that appeals to you might the reverse for the next guy. I love BDO combat but other people hate it because they hate twitch-counter-combo based combat, which is perfectly fine. MMO games are pretty feature heavy so if you can’t find one among the majors that you enjoy then you’re probably in the wrong genre entirely.
EVE’s just another option in the MMO stable, if that’s your thing (empire building and loss based PVP) then go for it. People confuse good with perfect or that THEIR preferences are the only thing that matter in whether MMOs are this nebulous definition of good. Again no MMO is perfect but one will likely offer MOST of what you want.
Everyday wow gets more and more tedious. Lower loot drops, grinding worse than a few peoples nightmares of bfa, toxic elitist community. Mmos as a genre are a dead breed. Single player games will always dominate the market even more over mmos. Even too this day I can still replay skyrim or fallout 4 and never get bored. A game doesn’t need a social aspect to be great. Look at dark souls or bloodborne. Yeah thiers a minor multiplayer aspect to it in the form of summoning phantoms of other players for help on bosses or invading another person’s world as an invader and ruining thier day by repeatedly killing them. But there’s no social aspect other than in game emotes that the community had unofficially made certain ones mean certain things. And the games are still vastly more popular than wow or any mmo. My point is no matter how much longer wow has and no matter what new mmo is released, they will never be top dog or take the number one slot over single player games.
Yeah but its all a package deal. I didnt care that BDO had one of the sexiest combat system ive ever encountered in an RPG…but there was nothing i wanted to do in game, and no endgame goals i saw…so what was the point?
I mean BDO did cater to the graphics crowd and there is a crowd that NEEDS high end graphics on a game and care about nothing else. But its why that game wasnt that popular…it had graphics and combat and little else. the content loop sucked for BDO.
I actually like ESO most of the non wow games. It has a solid content delivery, good quests, fun storyline, and nice world, and the graphics are nice. But again no endgame goals other than collecting classes leveled and crafting templates or whatever. So i really only play that game in stints where i run around doing world quests and its fun but not a long term game.
FFXIV i like but content on alt specs is terrible. I actually bought their famed xpac and never made it there, i was lost in ARR content and whatever xpacs came before and its just delivered in such a painful manner…but they have solid dungeon combat mechanics.
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I found ESO incredibly boring. In fact I thought it was absolute crap compared to the individual game. The only thing ESO has over skyrim is you see other people running around at the cost of content immersion and game.
Like most internet statistics, they are made up.
Better? Probably.
As accessible to as many people tech wise? Nope.
With fewer p2w shops? Nope
WoW is definitely the best for me, but I acknowledge part of that has to do with my familiarity with it and how long I’ve played. ESO, FF14, GW2, and even SWTOR are all good. SWTOR in particular is way underrated in my opinion. I guess it didn’t (and maybe still doesn’t) have the end game to hook people long term, but the questing and stories in the game are great.
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The only reason that I left FFXIV to come back to WoW is that FF has 1/10th the quantity, and quality, of end game content. FFXIV does everything else better than WoW, but almost completely lacks any sort of meaningfully challenging dungeons or raids.
When it comes to gameplay it depends on my mood, I enjoy both WoW and STO, with some occasional SWTOR to scratch the Star Wars itch. For an all around MMO experience though WoW is by far the best.
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Yes because what’s better is 100% subjective. IMO WoW is the best as it gets but I think people’s definition on what’s best is different. WoW feels the most smooth/fluid to play out of all MMORPGs and IMO had the best PvE content in raids. If you are only interested in the raw PvP though, WoW is definitely not the best MMORPG for that.
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Kind of agree with that. I’ve heard fantastic things about FF14 but have never been able together over how bland the textures look. Skin is flat pink with a normal map to create shading and most objects in the world are built in a similar way.
It’s also kind of… meh. Lots of older zones that look like quarries with only a few trees sticking up and otherwise just rock and grass texture.
Wow has its faults but the art is very very lush.
I do have to give credit where credit is due. Blizzard has a LOT of problems. They have fallen very far from when they were one of the best developers. In fact, they are one of the worst now. WOW is still their best product, and I don’t expect them to make anything else that’s any good.
BUT…Blizzard’s art and music teams are absolutely top notch. While FFXIV does have some amazing battle themes, its more ambient zone music is really lacking. For Blizzard…pretty much all the music is top notch. And even when the content in WOW sucks, the zones are absolutely beautiful.
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Never found one that did raids and M+ as well as blizzard, even did m+ at all.
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