Can anyone provide clarification on rogue hit% with sources please

Hello, I was hoping I could get some information about rogue hit cap. I’ve seen various people on forums/guides give different numbers and want to get some solid sources so I can figure out which is the actual correct answer.

I’ve heard both 8% (9-1% from weapon skill 305 avoiding penalty), 6% (9-1% from weapon skill 305 avoiding penalty -2% additional from hidden weapons kill bonuses).

For instance, Oto’s guide seems to have it at the 8% hit req. i understand Oto’s was made a while back and on a private server.
Alternatively, I’ve seen people recently on forums post things like the following:

“Hit cap is 9%… but 6% with +5 weapon skill and makes your miss rate on a 63 mob 6%. You get a hidden .4% hit per weapon skill point added for the first 5 points over cap, and don’t have the 1% penalty from being more than 10 levels difference between mob defense and your weapon skill. So 9% to miss - 1% penalty - 2% to hit = 6% to miss with 5 weapon skill.”

but I can’t find any actual sources to back up the extra 2% hit to bring the total needed down to 6%. The blue post a while back about beta seems to say 9%-1%=8%, so I know 8% is for sure acceptable instead of 9, but I just wanted to see if anyone had sources for 6%.

Thanks.

bump for reply please.

Have you tried the Rogue Discord? The Discords are usually more in depth.

Not too sure man. I just gank people who are at a quarter health followed by /loling at their body.

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https://github.com/magey/classic-warrior/wiki/Attack-table

All the info regarding melee swings is found here.

15 35% (~35.12) 8.0% 9.0%
14 31% 7.8% 8.8%
13 27% (~26.74%) 7.6% 8.6%
12 23% (~22.72%) 7.4% 8.4%
11 19% 7.2% 8.2%
10 15% (~14.82%) 6.0% 6.0%
9 11% 5.9% 5.9%
8 7% 5.8% 5.8%
7 5% (~5.12%) 5.7% 5.7%
6 5% 5.6% 5.6%
5 5% (~4.96%) 5.5% 5.5%
4 5% 5.4% 5.4%
3 5% 5.3% 5.3%
2 5% 5.2% 5.2%
1 5% 5.1% 5.1%
0 5% 5.0% 5.0%

Note 310 line on the table = 305 weapon skill

Rogues get their hitcap lowered from 9% to 6% with 305 skill, and get an additional 5% hit from talents, which means they only need 1% hit to be hitcapped for yellow hits. They’ll still want more hit, obviously.

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im asking why does 305 drop it form 9 to 6 not 9 to 8?

oooo, i did not know there was a classic rogue discord, could i get it please?

OK there has been no official blue source about hit cap and the only official post was about the secret 1% hit suppression of mobs +3 higher, as in they would ignore 1% of your hit chance (not that you had an extra 1% chance to miss).

So hit cap for main hand is 9% (8% miss + 1% hit suppression vs 63 boss or things with a defence skill >10 levels higher than your weapon skill)

Through vigorous testing by members of the community, they have reverse engineered the formula’s such that a magic event happens when you reach 305 weapon skill… the miss chance per defence difference drops from .2% to .1% and the supression chance goes away.
So you only need 6% to cap main hand @305… @304 weapon skill hit cap is 8.2% (7.2% miss + 1% suppression).

Weapon skill also effects glancing blows… but you have specifically asked about hit so I will leave that for another time.

Check Google.

ty for a very thorough and helpful reply.