Can a middle ground be found for Karma already

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like this CD is either broken OP or a complete joke

right now its the latter

like its very boring some seasons Karma is divine shield others its gone in 1-2 globals

buff Karma by a small margin for Windwalker, 90 second CD does not equal 1 aimed shot or 2 feral globals (or it shouldn’t to say it more correctly)

windwalker is about trading its medium-sized defensives based on the situation, and most seasons they are of equal or similar value

but now the amount of times u press karma and die 2 seconds later is a little obnoxious

I’m sure the git gut professors will figure out a way to say it’s not a meme CD right now

anyways

happy Easter yall

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I feel like this IS the middle ground for karma.

It’s not intended to be a bop where you’re totally immune, but it’s still quite a bit better than many other walls.

I think ww is super survivable atm btwn karma, diffuse, fort brew, fof parry, and port.

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I love spell reflecting karma and watching the monk cry

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bro its literally 1-2 (max 3) globals from any spec

thats like 2 seconds on average of having the “wall”

a 90s cd shouldnt make u feel fine for 2 seconds

i press fort brew i know im 100% fine for a while, its also a 90s cd

another 90s cd warrior enraged regen guy is also fine

so the CD is a meme rn

try counting the amount of times people say “go through karma” lately - its literally everyone, nobody respects the CD

i prekarma RMP go it was gone before even the first cheap shot ended, and theres 2 more coming lmao

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“2 seconds” where you’ve reflected all of that damage onto someone else and “2 seconds” for u to press one of your many other buttons

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Ok bet let’s remove fort brew and buff karma by 150%

Enraged regen is 2 minutes and into certain comps isn’t even a reliable trade

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Is there anything you like about PvP or does something upset you every week

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shield of vengeance is what karma should be

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Hyperbole 2.0, I remember calling you out last thread for it.

Cause for some reason it takes Chunli playing WW for the player to realize that they can in fact combine Karma & Port.

Then we look @ the replay and see it was Veins, Blades, Bomb, Dance, PI, full stun off dr

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I legitimately don’t remember the last time I ever saw a WW use port defensively.

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this is the middle ground. try shadowlands for a weak karma that dies in 1 global. prior karma was disgusting

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yeah this stopped after shadowlands. the last time WW had to port defensively and also kite melee out at times with roll

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Monk should get a mild absorb if it’s removed or doesn’t go off for some reason.

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Right? I swear every melee feels like they need to be on a caster’s face 100% of the time or they’re doing something wrong.

I always think it’s wild when I see things like, “ww/dh needs karma/blur during stuns!!!”
As though they don’t have insane mobility tools to disengage and kite.

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Is this even happening though? From a healer’s perspective, I see a LOT more WW deaths without ever pressing karma than just dying through.

It doesn’t even feel like WW are good kill targets to begin with most of the time

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Ehh.

Its 50% of your HP, so a 5m shield, and redirects 70% of that back, so 3.5m damage if fully absorbed.

I’d be happy if they reduced the cooldown a bit, maybe to 60s?

Touch of Karma used to be a terrifying ability – one that made people fear targeting a windwalker – now its reduced to “Oh, i can just burn through the shield no problem”

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Buff to 60% hp, 70% healed back to the WW either as a shield (if used @ 100% hp) that persists for 5s (nondispellable) and remove the damage component since no one cares about it anyway.

2m cd tho, make fort brew like a 2m cd as well maybe

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Fort brew is a 2m CD that a talent node can make it either 1m30s or have 10% increased health/DR

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Gut ww then.

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