Campaign Quest Locked Behind Raiding

[Yonbi-illidan (Yonbi)]

@Lokaa-wyrmrest-accord

So which is it? Story mode or real raiding? Because it seems to me that the vocal minority can’t make up its collective mind - or at the very least the goalpost moves when the narrative changes.

That is fair, but at the moment LFR is just a story mode.

There is a legit point/question to be raised about whether we need an heroic and M0 level dungeon or an LFR raid given the changes to flex raiding and the introduction of M+. That isn’t the point of this thread though.

So long as LFR is designed as an uber casual (i.e. stacks of determination) - it remains WoW’s story mode.

Even if they were to outright remove LFR, then I would argue they should stop forcing story beats to end in raids - just full stop.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Daiza-gilneas

Just don’t use WoWhead, youtube, Twitter, The WoW Forums, Discord, Facebook, or anything else.

Ok I guess I just won’t play the game til June then because ppl in chat talk about spoiLers all the time .

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Luxør-aegwynn

False logic. Rated PvP players aren’t casual players. Try again or just stick with Reddit bud.

False logic . I play rated pvp and I’m casual.

[Luxør-aegwynn]

No, that just makes you an oxymoron.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

no that just means you are wrong

[Ainarian-proudmoore]

I’ve been raiding since TBC, the original. I just know people who play the game and don’t like groups. So don’t ASSUME.

[Slade-kargath]

@Sinelius-area-52

No, its because us raiders dont wanna triple raid - LFR, normal, and heroic all week long from the get go.

Then put a lockout on it.
If you down a boss on a particular difficulty, you are locked out from the other difficulties that week.

[Sinelius-area-52]

Wouldn’t be cool because LFR has transmogs we still want.

[Kellak-stormrage]

Legit killed him in normal the day before this. Talk about timing.

[Luxør-aegwynn]

1-4 in RBGs. You aren’t a rated PvP player by any definition.

GG thanks for playing (casual).

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

thats because i am indeed a casual and am leveling alts rn instead of focusing on playing rated because i was capped for the week ive hit 1800 in rbgs so pls try that again

[Lendoranah-fenris]

Noice! This is good! I’ll still wait though to finish up the final wing afore finishing the campaign! I’m dropping far behind at the moment renown wise since a new thing in life is hindering me so, but Ill try nonetheless!

[Luxør-aegwynn]

So you’re just a casual player. End of discussion. The more you type, the more you prove my point.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Luxør-aegwynn

So you’re just a casual player. End of discussion. The more you type, the more you prove my point.

nah you said

@Luxør-aegwynn

False logic. Rated PvP players aren’t casual players. Try again or just stick with Reddit bud.

im a rated pvper who is also casual we do exist

[Luxør-aegwynn]

Stop typing. You aren’t a rated PvP player by any definition.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

i will not stop typing i am to a rated player i have gotten to 1800 and im currently passively queuing this season on multiple toons there for i am right you are wrong deal with it

[Luxør-aegwynn]

Alright, for your persistence we’ll give your an honorary rated PvP player title. You are a true keyboard warrior. Well done champ!

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

It’s literally just for casual story and tmog runs . This whole forum can’t make up their minds on any topic . So that doesn’t really prove much imo .

[Xenna-bloodhoof (Xenna)]

What I see is a lot of doom/gloomers posting obnoxious opinions and then simply being corrected by the the rest of us.

Of course with any small loud vocal minority that is obstinate and obnoxious, they simply continue to be bull headed and crusade on with the wallowing and flailing like a fish out of water but at least we get to pass the time with indirect insults to each other right?

[Lokaa-wyrmrest-accord]

@Kitanana-sargeras

It’s literally just for casual story and tmog runs . This whole forum can’t make up their minds on any topic . So that doesn’t really prove much imo .

According to you. Others will argue vociferously that LFR is real raiding. Not to mention that some people’s endgame is LFR and they equip the gear they get from there because it’s probably the best gear they’ll earn that tier. People aren’t hive minds and everyone has an opinion and different reasons for doing things. That’s my entire point.