Calia Menethil?

Writers just wasted the best opportunity to provide character development to Calia with that last cinematic, it was the last remaining part of her brother.

The fact that Calia a new character introduced on Legion, BFA… a different kind of undead just missed the whole expansion around afterlife it’s really weird.

“I am not yet ready to rule. But I wish to serve the people of Lordaeron. They are my people, and now I am like them. It feels… right. I’ll learn. And from the archbishop, I’ll learn what it’s like to be… this. To be undead yet walk in the Light.”

Instead they brought Baine to the Shadowlands to just sit at Oribos or Bolvar that’s just like any other guard npc. It’s not only if they did dirty to Arthas but to the remaining characters related to him.

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Pre patch should be a key indicator of what is to happen of those who stayed behind on Azeroth.

And while at it I just want to say, Baine is such a pathetic Character, he makes the Taurens looks weak.

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They not only wasted numerous opportunities for multiple avenues of character development, they completely trashed the character of Arthas.

Good lord, what they could have done with Calia, Uther, Jaina, Sylvanas, Arthas himself, development of the legacy of Lordaeron and current status of the Undercity… GGGGAAAHHHHHHHH. Complete and utter ineptitude.

(Sorry, am rushed for time. This is all aimed at Blizzard.)

Blizzard - YOU ARE BAD AND SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR WHAT YOU DID TO ARTHAS.

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Thing is, Shadowlands is the afterlife. We did not go there to rescue Arthas.

I swear calia was in oribos with talia

They went visit briefly and nothing happened.

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Don’t care. The added info on The Jailer, what he did to Anduin, and how it reflects on Sylvanas, should have durn well been added in for Arthas too.

Epicly bad story telling. Blizzard failed, failed hard and I, for one, will never be letting this go. /shrug

I said the same thing about Legacy of the Void in Starcraft II.

Pffft when they retconned the overmind in wings of liberty sc 2 died for me.

Fun to plan but BW to sc2 they dumped so many threads. Raynor killing kerrigan is another.

Its weird i thought death knights would be more up in arms but mostly its paladins.

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Has no bearing on rescuing him or not. What it does have bearing on is that fact that the Jailer was the cause of Arthas going nutso and losing his soul in the first place. THAT should have been addressed, fully, at the very least. Why should Sylvanas get a pass, and he does not at the very least get his takeover addressed?

But from a story telling perspective? They completely and utterly wrecked so many legacy storylines, and gave up absolute gold mines they could have tapped in to.

Sorry, as a published author, I cannot condone their foolishness and their utterly destructive behavior in regards to this.

*ETA - pppffttt this linked me to the earlier one, and that’s what I was trying to respond to lol. Meh.

They writers don’t know what they are doing anymore, they just wanna make sylvannas the protaganist.

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It was. The Jailer mentioned more than once that Arthas was a failed experiment, and that he couldn’t control him the way he wanted to.

Arthas wasn’t mind controlled. He’s responsible for everything he did.

I legit totally agree with you! What a huge letdown! I swear the dev team and product managers really don’t know how to make a game engaging or interesting! They all care about waterfall project management and the bottom dollar instead of remembering this is legit a masterpiece and there’s energy in the world of gaming. Not everything has to be transactional.

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I don’t think the Overmind was ever retconned. In SC1 it pretty explicitly delighted in finishing the work of the Xel’naga, so it being a pawn of Amon naturally follows. If you’re referring to the notion that it was actually a secret hero all along, that was probably as much a lie from Ouros as Tassadar’s “resurrection” was. LotV explicitly revealed the latter to be a lie. I see no reason to believe the former to be true. As long as Zeratul believes what Ouros wanted him to believe, the ends justified the means.

Raynor not killing Kerrigan literally is actually pretty consistent with his character. His affection for Kerrigan was a massive character fault that got both him and his men into trouble. I enjoyed the fact that it was a serious point of contention between him and his crew in Liberty.

Let’s not forget that, over the course of Sc1, Raynor gets his raiders stranded and murdered on Char just because he has a dream about Kerrigan. He also abandons the protoss on Shakuras in their time of need to save Mengsk from the UED just because Kerrigan asks him to. He also sanctions, with Fenix, a random and unwarranted attack on a neutral terran government, resulting in countless more people dead, because Kerrigan needs money. And when Kerrigan finally turns on everyone, all he can do is stand there like a surprised Pikachu meme. Mengsk’s cooperation was more understandable; he was desperate to have power again. But Raynor only ever helped because of his affection for Kerrigan.

This was never going to be the guy that killed her literally. Having him do so metaphorically was the best option.

She was at some point. Not sure why. She just kind of milled about in the room were the voice hangs out.

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They never should have touched him at all… and if they had touched him more… my god I can’t imagine… i just know it would have been bad.

The Tauren did that all on their own following the burning of Teldrassil. Truthfully, it was the god awful writing.

I’ve never trusted Calia. She’s probably plotting and controlling everything behind the scenes

kerrigan psychically teached out to jim in the chrysalis to bring him to char

In BW he literally says he is going to be the one to kill her for killing fenix et al. Cut to sc2 and he is Mr. Mope about her and wants to saaaave herrrrrr

The overmind was a total retcon. It was driven to combine purity essence with purity of form and consume auir as a result. It wasnt secretly plotting to make kerrigan as a loop hole to stop a rogue xel’naga that had stuck some mind control vodoo on it to consume the protoss.

Bleck just thinking of the line where the apparent fake tassadar ghost says its a noble creature makes me mad still. It slaughtered billions for evolution. It was primal force of nature that was kill or be killed and through its drive to consume or annihilate inherently evil.