Anyone else notice how boring classic or the seasonals become as soon as everyone starts raid logging?
The prebis grind is so fun because you get to play whenever you can, not on a weekly schedule.
Heres my proposal. Keep the raid lock out while content is current, but as soon as the next raid comes out remove the timer on the old content.
I promise the pug community will be alive again.
That’s just kinda like what happened with making the r14 gear the second prebis grind.
It’ll just be raining OSGs and thunderfuries lol. Every caster will have Tear DFT will be falling from the sky
There’s reasons for raid lockouts
There’s other stuff to do in the game during a lockout it’s just nobody on anniversary does anything for whatever reason
That would just make the degens more degen. Can you just imagine all the sweaty guilds running 40 MCs a week.
Eh, vanilla has the least amount of stuff to do at max level other than raid.
But yeah I don’t hate the idea, would be nice for alts.
if you have no imagination maybe 
YEah you can farm mats 
Oh wait you can do that in every other version of WoW…
The swarm of locusts that play this game does not care about 75% of the game, in fact most times it’s an annoyance to them.
You just don’t like everything else that there is to do. The best part of the game is the stuff the community perpetuates whether that’s server drama, rivalries etc. blizzard did remove how some of this works tho to be fair
2019 servers provide plenty of evidence of the extra elements to the game but anniversary doesn’t have any of that even though it’s the same game “but blizzard added some stuff”
The idea won’t even work lol. I’m kind of shocked people don’t know why having no lockout is bad. I refuse to believe people don’t understand.
I’m not sure why people who only like to do the raids in vanilla even play at all. The raids take like 30 minutes to clear - so then what? You literally have just NOTHING to do at all? Lol. Why not just play another game at that point
Yeah that used to cause a lot of server friction but on anniversary it doesn’t happen. Xd
Some of that was blizzard, tho. Unintentionally
I think that’s the only people playing now lol. Everyone I know doesn’t even play cause of it. Anniversary is mad dry compared to literally any other server that ever existed
Like the OP said only for older raids. Which means they’d essentially become dungeons.
/shrug there’ a very finite amount of time I will farm mats or run dungeons I don’t need anything from.
Dungeons that have items that are bis for the entire game off of a lockout.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
This is how I know you don’t really understand why the game is fun in the first place which would explain why you need to spam MC 30 times a week. This seems to be a lot of the current anni pop. It’s weird
They genuinely do not care about how changes like charity AV ranking impact the rest of the game. They just want to play Barbie Doll dress up and raid log. 99% of the game is all about selfish character progression. Their guild, the open world, battlegrounds, farming materials. None of that actually matters. As long as they can get sick lootz for their character pane is the only thing they enjoy.
A sad farcry from my small raiding guild on Incendius in 2019, where we defended ourselves from Presidentyang (RIP) and 40v120 in the mountain, zoned in with our buffed raid, and we’re excited that people in our roster got important items even if we also wanted those items.
I’ve played since Nost. Game is dead. Time to move on.
Yep. Game is unplayable compared to past servers. Oh well
Yeah a couple items for a couple classes. It’s hardly like MC gear in general is BiS for all of vanilla.
You haven’t explained why the OP’s idea would somehow detract from what you consider fun.
Seems like more of a you problem not a game problem.
It makes items like TF the standard, just like how r14 is the standard in anni. They’re even requiring r14 for some zg pugs, lol.
Without something to work towards in game you just quit usually or get bored. All a lack of lockout would do is make that happen faster
Why do you think all these new games coming out are dying 3-6 months in?
The game isn’t designed to keep you digging. All a raid lockout removal would do is keep you digging for much less time. Getting items wouldn’t feel good anymore and people already talk about feeling like that now in anni because everyone is r14 lol. You see mages with CTS in cities
I mean nothing goes on on anni compared to literally every other server before it, so yes it would be a game problem. Probably mostly a community problem tho overall
I would like to remind you and anyone in the thread that doesn’t know, Ziryus is the literal individual that started the famous Wall of No post back in the day. This is your guy right here and here are his takes
Once again per the OP there would be lockouts for current tier.
It doesn’t really make any difference. Like at all.
He thinks the pug scene will flourish but it’ll actually be dead unless you ride the wave of MC spammers for the first 2 weeks of bwl
By his notion you could join an “mc spam farm group” on Tuesday and run it 40 times in 20 hours. That’s stupid bro. Get your head straight
Oh I remember but at this point they are in the serial contrarian playpen with Eyr, Frossty and a few others.