Bwonsamdi married to the Winter Queen?

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Bwonsamdi is based off of Baron Samedi who is married to Maman Brigitte a Goddess of death that originated in Ireland and prefers the dead over that of the living and helps lost souls/ spirits that are trapped, to find their way. (based off of, not exactly like.)

Ok so The Winter Queen does all this, her zone is steeped in Irish mythology.(we don’t know what the Winter queen is like in private, but every vender sells booze and I keep finding a awful lot a flute player’s mysteriously trapped in the maw.)

Bwonsamdi has a “man cave” in her zone and is allowed to hide a bunch of troll souls hidden. (in a drought when they need souls) The Winter queen is obviously “the boss” his boss. However if she was really the boss wouldn’t he use the term “the queen, or her majesty. “The Boss” sounds like a jesting term a husband would use when referring to his wife.

In the novels Bwonsamdi says this to Talanji.

“Sh-hh. Ya not listening, child. Ya only hearin’ what you want to. There is a harmony to things. A way and a flow. Ancient ones, spirits, loa… In time, we, too, must embrace the end, the long, deep slumber. And without us? Eh, our followers find strength in other things, in themselves, or new beliefs. They grieve, they grow—just like you. And when the veil of dreaming lifts, the eternal and great beings climb on the wheel once more, bound to it, and slowly, ever so slowly, the wheel spins. In that way, the ancient and powerful things of this world are eternal, ya majesty.”

This sounds like he chills with the Winter Queen a lot and is familiar with the long slumber.

In “the other side” dungeon upon seeing the Manastorm couple make up he gets soft and talks about true love. And about having his fair share back in his day. Then correcting himself by adding the word “more then his fair share”.

For some reason I think the further in we get the more will be revealed on this… What do you guys think? Is Bwondamdi married to the Winter Queen?

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Sorry quick question, is mamam bridgette based off one of the tuatha de danann? Brigid to be precise? Or is she based off the Irish saint version of the goddess?

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It wasn’t quite clear in the mythology on Wikipedia. I think they references alot of differnt forms of her.

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Brigitte, is just as bad, if not worse than her husband in terms of foul mouth, sass and cigars and booze. And often in both US, and Haitian mythology, She is the Boss of him. And often times can be at odds with eachother, or paired together in at odds with Kriminal, while leaving the coolest Ghede, La’Crox to be forgotten.

Winter Queen for WoW reads and generic Hans Christian Anderson copycat. With family friendly touches.

Yes and no. Haitian, she is both, Louisiana, would be Irish inspired.

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This makes sense. I don’t think Mueh’zala could be Bwon’samdi’s boss because he wants to snuff out all the ‘pretenders’ to his dominion over death.

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Sounds interesting, if it ends up that way I like the tie ins you have illuminated here.

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She would have to in order to fill the alternate role they have for her. However there is no reason that WoW wouldn’t have taken a few touches.

(And this covenant has booze on alot of venders and no one knows what she is like in private. She is in private alot, and she is surrounded by fairies who do nothing but pull pranks.)

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No they are not.

De Other Side dungeon confirms Mueh’zala is Bwosandi’s boss, just he stopped caring about mortals.

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While I get you trying to make them have a connection. If they were to give WoW Samedi cause Ghede Loa Samedi has a wife, than… it is just. Meh.

In the actual religion, there is a correlation between the two, and why the rest of the ghede are who they are and why each one acts a specific way to mortals and to eachother and to their assigned roles. There is really no matching correlation between S and W that really warrants them to be interested, involved and remotely motivated for it.

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All it confirms is that Mueh’zala WAS his former boss. It also explains that Bwonsomdi rebelled agenst him a long long time ago. Before these current evens by a few thousand years.
(hmm wonder if she helped him rebel.)

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I think he just… ahem ‘meets’ female death dieties once in a while, and she happens to be one of them? He dosen’t seem like the kind of Loa that would be married. If anyone a female Loa of Life would be his waifu

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Location of his “the other side” dungeon.
His reference to “the Boss”.
Her Irish referencing.
How he referenced to her life/death cycle in the book.
How he looked back fondly on “love”.
Someone had to help him rebel.

They do have connections. It’s just not as strong as seeing them together saying hi wife/hubby.

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Good observations! I didn’t notice all this or put any of it together!

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I see where you are coming from now. Story wise for WoW, that would be beneficial, using bits and pieces here and there, and kinda cool.

Though, Mama B, is everything that isnt winter Q.

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Drawing inspiration from mythology is not always accurate to the original look at the hundreds of different Greek mythology variations. The original is always more interesting and far more lude.

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Maybe he’s just crushing on her?

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I think the connection goes deeper. In order to rebel vs Muzala, Bwonsomdi would have to have a backing equal or greater then Muzala in power.

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I mean, Mama, in Haitian Creole, does have a garden she tends and likes to bring her favorite mortals and souls to to escape from the shenanigans of The brothers (Samedi, La’Crox and Krimminal).

So… eh. I’ll keep an open mind, and pretend that Winter queen could be some sass throwing foul mouth cigar smoking boozer out of the public’s eye. Lol.

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So she helped him out ONE TIME and now he’s in love.

Man, for being so brash he sure is a “nice guy.” :joy:

Edit: I’m joking by the way.

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Well one thing is for sure, he hates her sister. Who is probably Eonar. I can tell this for sure by the echo of Eonar sold on the vendor. (ohh and they both have roots growing out of their heads)

The Winter queen was looking for reasons to let her pet pass away before finally caving in and helping.

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