I think more people should be educated when it comes to the store bought items in the game. When you purchase WoW and it’s expansion you don’t actually ‘own’ the game. On top of having to pay for a subscription you also are only participating in a licensed agreement. You are essentially ‘renting’ the game from Blizzard and they can at any moment remove your access to it.
Why I think this is important is because they are selling items on a shop that could potentially have real value outside of the game. If you buy say the store bought mounts and pets that are not going to be for sale later, they will have value to them to people who couldn’t purchase them down the road. They will appreciate in value. This means that if you take advantage of buying them now your account will be worth more on the black market.
The problem with this is the moment you try to relinquish your account to someone else via a money transfer you run the risk of losing the account and being permanently banned from the game. I don’t believe that these items that do not need to ‘go away’ because they literally are just copies of information that never degrades. Meaning these mounts could very well stay on the storefront however this does feel like it goes against ant-trust laws since the company cannot provide adequate proof that them holding the store for these pets and mounts are creating an undue burden on the seller. In this case the system is completely automated and takes pennies to run so I find it really hard to believe that this would be the case.
I believe if Blizzard is going to do these sorts of pricing scheme’s for products they claim are ‘going away’ you should be able to sell your account online based on your own appraised value.
They’re going away because they will become unobtainable. Stop thinking this deeply into it. You seeing your account as a product to sell in the future makes you just as disgusting as Blizzvision.
it’s like when I try to steal peoples’ kidneys and sell them on the black market. It really inconveniences me how it’s illegal to do that. And man, those people with the donor cards really make things more complicated. It’s just not fair! And I’m not even going to get into how it’s unfair that the black market is illegal! We need change, people!
So maybe this can help explain the thought process a bit more.
So the idea that you could artificially create a scarcity for a product without providing that the product is creating undue hardship on the distributor but when people want to sell there account they can’t because Blizzard doesn’t make any money in the process of that transaction. I just think that if we are going to live in a world with a in-game shop for items that should be part of the game you pay subscription for year round you should be able to sell your account without Blizzard intervening. You see Blizzard gets to decide what kind of money you can spend. The whole trading gold for a wow token or blizzard balance is dumb because you can’t cash out unless you want to buy Blizzard stuff on the store and then turn around and sell that on ebay for slightly less. So if I cash out that way is Blizzard going to ban my account? I just don’t understand how two people coming to their own transaction of buying or selling accounts is any of Blizzard’s business. In the same way if someone wants to buy a mount or cosmetics on the st ore, it is none of my business whether you want to throw your money away or not. What i’m saying is, that if are going to purchase things in game that aren’t real you should be able to sell it regardless.
“I just think”, “I just feel”, “I just believe” and similar statements don’t convince many people. You’re stating an opinion, and that’s fine, but that’s about all you’re doing.
A black market of buying and selling accounts is most definitely Blizzard’s business. It’s far bigger and more complex than your hypothetical individual transaction.
The buying and selling of accounts is not analogous to Blizzard removing digital items from their digital store. There is pretty fixed demand for such items, so removing a few of the less popular ones in an attempt to get people to buy them is a pretty standard business concept.
It’s a statement but you cloud it by saying ‘it’s too complicated for your tiny brain to comprehend’. You’re trying to give me a lecture about how to write a post but then you’re just as quick to sound condescending and as non-helpful as possible.
I wasn’t trying to be insulting. So, for instance, a person who levels a bunch of 120’s and then sells the account over and over as a profession dilutes the game experience for other players by: 1) being a bad actor in LFG content; 2) being more likely to engage in banned activities; 3) playing the game for purely economic reasons goes against the spirit of what the game is supposed to be, and Blizzard is obliged to respond to that. There are other reasons as well. I just meant that it’s more complex than, “I should be able to sell it because I want to,” not that you couldn’t comprehend the reasons.
What does this even mean. LFR is completely voluntary.
Blockquote 2) being more likely to engage in banned activities;
Such as?
Blockquote 3) playing the game for purely economic reasons goes against the spirit of what the game is supposed to be,
The spirit of the game sounds like a very whimsicle statement.
Blockquote and Blizzard is obliged to respond to that. There are other reasons as well. I just meant that it’s more complex than, “I should be able to sell it because I want to,” not that you couldn’t comprehend the reasons.
Again not helpful. Your reasons aren’t exactly grounded in how people actually interact in the real world.
And your thought processes aren’t rooted in logic or critical thinking. I mean no offense, but you come across as a 12-year-old doing your damnedest to try to justify doing something you know isn’t allowed.
I feel confident in saying 100% of the people purchasing things from the store were already aware of that, but thanks for the reminder I guess.
You can think that all you like, however the ToU you have to accept before logging into the game the very first time says you have no rights to anything. If you don’t agree with it, don’t accept it.
When you download the game (digital or physical version makes no difference) and go to log in the first time…and again every single time you download a patch and “re-agree” to the TOU…you are agreeing to “renting” your account and all digital items associated with said account. They are telling you up front what you are getting into and what you are paying for, and you are agreeing to those terms.
When you purchase a digital item from the Shop to use in the game you already know that you are “renting” the game and that someday, should you decide (or should Blizzard decide for you if you break the TOU) that you no longer want to play that the pixels you just bought will disappear into the nether-webs.
No one is doing anything illegal. No one is breaking any kind of laws. No one is doing anything wrong. Blizz has a team of lawyers who know significantly more than any of the “armchair” legal aides (including yourself) in these forums who are trying, incredibly unsuccessfully, to make claims as to wrong doings on Blizz’s part because of a simple sale during the holidays. I mean, how dare they give us discounts or decide to remove some items from the digital store and let us know they are going to be doing so. Those bastards!
Plain and simple…
You can’t sell your account on Ebay because the account doesn’t belong to you. A fact to which you agreed the first time, and numerous times since, you logged into the game.
They killed Kenny… ToS stuff is rather annoying. Should you not agree with a changed version of the multi-paged cryptic legalize there is no way to be compensated for your loss based on them saying you have to wear yellow panties and a tuque while playing.
Reminds me of trying to get a refund from Dell for windows 8.1 after clicking nope. Machine was to be used as a Linux box and quite sometime to get a refund of pretty much nothing that was worth the time put into getting it back. Really wish they would give a option of no os.
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