Buying loot

Is it against the rules to buy loot from a dungeon runner?

What do you mean by “buy loot?”

It’s perfectly acceptable to pay in-game gold for someone to run you through instances on higher characters, for in-game loot, etc.

I’m not sure what the rules might be around paying fiat currencies for such things, tbh.

Real money for in game loot is against tos.

I don’t believe there is such a thing as a ToS anymore.

We do have a Blizzard End User License Agreement, or EULA, as well as Blizzard’s In-Game Code of Conduct.

If you can point to anything in those documents that expresses that paying (fiat currency) to someone for in-game services is against them, then I’d be satisfied that your claim is not false.

Likewise, if you could link to any blue post that sets such a precedence.

Google bro

And by google I mean google.com

Ha. Nice one, but nah. I didn’t make the claim.

And by tos I mean blizzard rules

I see.

I’ve provided links to the actual reference material:

That’s the source of truth right there, and any claims that something is against it, could easily be supported with a copy/paste of words in those documents, provided the claim is true.

Rather than flat out say, “This isn’t true,” My claim would be that, “I do not believe there is anything in the EULA nor CoC that supports this claim. However, if you’d like to inform yourself of the rules, simply make sure to read them.”

Google is vague

Certainly. Google isn’t the source of truth. It’s especially vague if you don’t know what you’re looking for, nor where to find it.

It’s a big world and I’m just a little boy

An interesting exercise might be to come up with some scenarios and challenge yourself to read the documentation and see if they are against the rules.

Some Scenarios:

  1. I’ll sell you a leveling guide for fiat currency.
  2. I’ll sell you tutorials for playing your class for fiat currency.
  3. I’ll sell you coaching time, where I’ll play with you, and coach you on your class and roll in PVP scenarios or PVE scenarios for fiat currency.
  4. I’ll sell you a spot in my dungeon/raid runs, where you play your character, and my team will carry you through some achievements/content for fiat currency.
  5. Same as 4, but you pay more for guaranteed loot/gear if it drops, for fiat currency.
  6. I’ll play your character for you, and level/get loot, etc. for fiat currency.
  7. I’ll sell you some BoE gear that I have from raiding for fiat currency.
  8. I’ll sell you some gold that I have for fiat currency.

If you are wondering whether any of those scenarios is against the CoC or EULA, a good way to find out is to test them by reading those documents and looking for wording that supports the claim, “That is against the rules.”

I appreciate the help. I’m sure I’ll find out the answer now.

You’relike the johnny Cochran of warcraft

The only prerequisite is literacy (and knowing where to look, but we do! (EULA, CoC)).

It may fall under the exploitation act. A while back a whole guild was band because they were short cutting a dungeon.

I dont see how this situation is any different

Short cutting for loot

Possibly. You’re right that there is some vague wording. There have been occasions in the past where raids/guilds have been suspended for exploiting bugs with particular mechanics.

In the Eula, the section under Cheating states:

“You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.”

And while it isn’t clear whether that’s an activity that grants an unfair advantage, there’s a bit of a warning at the bottom:

“If you’re unsure if your actions violate this code of conduct, reconsider them. We reserve the right to restrict offending accounts as much as necessary to keep Blizzard games a fun experience for all players.”

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