Button bloat

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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This is exactly how retail began button bloat. We will just add a couple buttons and then more and more until it is no fun because of the bloat. I prefer to look at the area I am playing in. Not staring at my cooldowns and depending on macros and addons.

They seem to be paid by how many buttons they create and are given a bonus for making a great game more incrementally complicated. The reason Vanilla was so good was simplicity. One or two more buttons is better than one button rotation I am in agreement with. But please stop the mad scientist button weaving please.

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Yeah I agree.

No one asked for more buttons in classic. We just wanted classes tweaked so useless skills weren’t so useless.

All they had to do was fix the existing talents but no that takes too much creativity. Instead they just recycled retail spells.

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I like having one or two more buttons to push than I did before, there really isn’t a whole lot more complexity here than there was in vanilla. Having more to do than hit the same one or two buttons for 2min is fun for me and I would assume others as well.

And no, we are no were near the amount of buttons retail has lmao.

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I don’t think it’s uniform across all classes and specs.

Warriors: some button bloat but it’s mostly new skills and talents, while the runes are primarily static or conditional buffs. Some warriors are crying “the runes didnt give us any new buttons” and others are crying “i already have too many buttons”

Warlocks: the button bloat is real. Fire locks will have to Rain of Fire Incinerate Immolate Conflag Chaos Bolt etc. Affliction has soooooo many dots to maintain.

Shamans: ele has like 4 buttons, enhance has 2? we really need more buttons for dps. Please please give us buttons.

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I certainly did, given that Classic rotations are only a few buttons on loop, which is agonizingly boring and braindead.

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Hard disagree. Very happy with Crusader Strike, Divine Storm, and Avenger’s Shield/Exorcism on my Ret Paladin. Nice to even have a rotation to be honest.

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I want all the buttons

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I like ret because of the lack of buttons needed. :grin:

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Then go play retail.

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Why don’t you go play Era? You clearly think game design peaked 20 years ago and are overwhelmed the moment you have more buttons than a moba.

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Oh for sure, and it’s still super minimal depending on runes. I like having CS as a filler and the ability to use exorcism on anything is super nice. 4 buttons is a good point for ret I think.

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Enhancement currently has:

  1. Flame Shock
  2. Earth Shock (if tank can keep threat)
  3. Frost Shock (if tank cannot keep threat)
  4. Lava Lash
  5. Searing Totem
  6. Fire Nova Totem
  7. Strength of Earth
  8. Shamanistic Rage

Plus other utility buttons to push situationally.

In phase 2 there will be more buttons.

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Finally a ret admits it.

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Use gse macro addon. So you can combine a lot spell together.
Heroic strike, overpower, victory rush, raging blow. Can be one button spam.
Sinister strike, ripost can be one button
Mangler and tigers fury
Flanking strike raptor strike
The list goes on and on
It’s not 100% efficient but definitely qol

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-talking about phase 2

  1. Stormstrike
  2. Shock
  3. Lava Lash/Burst
  4. Sure, Fire Nova

the rest count as buttons for the purpose of pedantry but not for the purposes of “fun attack ability” like SoE totem wooooooooooo lmao

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Go play Era

:person_shrugging:

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I like rogue because I bind cheap shot to the same button as hemo so at most I have to press 6 buttons to kill anyone in the game.

E - Cheap shot
E - Hemo
E - Hemo
E - Hemo
1 - Kidney shot
E - Hemo
E - Hemo
F - Evis
Mouse button 3 - blind
Mouse button 4 - prep
Mouse button 5 - Stealth

Repeat

EZ LOL

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But didn’t they removed a bunch?

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Diablo 4 has 5 buttons, 3 if you’re a minion necro. Could always give that a whirl.

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They did both, they started adding progressively more and more.

Then cut like 80% of the game faster than they added it.

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