listen i used to love my frost dk but the removal of presences is what made them fall for me. i remember id use unholy for catching up while swapping to blood for big attacks, just fun gameplay that can be used for more than just identity.
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I honestly think if we get presences back and death grip off of the GCD DK will return to it’s former glory. The current changes they are making in alpha are 100% a step in the right direction. Death coil and lichborne back baseline? ohh baby.
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Most of us have not forgotten about presences, This is how I saw dk’s they are the anti paladins. They had presences like paladins had Auras. They get passive mount speed increase like paladins. That being said I did miss being able to swap auras to accomplish different goals. Frost DKs finally got 2h back, I would love to see presences return as well like paladins got Auras back. Blizzard said that they would return and i hope they will.
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for those that want them back are trying to think up ways to modernise them
Well blizzard said they would be brought back. I do miss them I do want them to return.
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The only reason they would return is if they want the specs to be role flexible again.
As in, having Frost/Blood/Unholy all be able to tank or DPS
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I do hope they are returned i loved using them
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that should be a hero class gimmick for dks
They will never make a 3 tank and 3 dps class.
It requires way too much balancing.
I’d like to see presences come back because I miss swapping in certain situations.
You are about to get hit by a hard hitting raid mechanic? Sacrifice some RP and swap to blood and help the healers out.
Running back from a wipe? Switch to Unholy for the movement speed.
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Death strike and DA fill those 2 roles.
Blood presence could be used as an additional DR which did come In handy in certain situations. Sometimes it’s better to prevent damage taken than to simply heal it after.
Very beneficial during progression.
Or tank goes down and no brez? Use blood presence and death strike.
There are already plenty of abilities in place to fill these situations. Death strike is sacrificing rp for a heal. Ibound reduces damage taken, ams reduces magic damage taken, da gives movement speed.
There is really no need for presences or even stances at this point in the game. The tools are there. It also depends on when the tank dies, the last few % then you might be able to do something and defeat the boss. The first few % and there isn’t a brez and you might as well wipe it up because if a dps dk survives through that then balance is entirely screwed up.
People haven’t forgotten precenses, they just don’t bring anything to the table.
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Our only other non magic DR is IBF which is a joke.
I would not say we have plenty of other ability’s that fill this role.
…obviously it would be the last few % of a boss or until a rez comes off cd.
It was also super useful in PvP when you get swapped to.
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Well, there’s are. Unless you think the dk is just so garbage that it needs more and more and more.
I do not feel as if dk’s are garbage.
I do think there is a lot of room for improvement though.
If you ever do any challenging content on your DK (which I suggest you do as it’s fun) you start to feel the disadvantages we have DR wise compared to other classes.
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I do agree with you. And what imo made us feel like anti paladins was that they had auras we had presences. And they gave see us nice utility. I want them back.
Maybe because i didn’t play wtlk i was not very attached to presences, so i don’t mind then that much.
But, i see they are cool, in a lore/rp standpoint, but i rly don’t know who bring then into the game the way it is now.
Maybe to work like paladin auras, maybe just one presence for every spec, maybe a talent row with those 3, rly don’t know how.
But as long it is not like the warriors stances i think it will be fine, hate stances.
Yet there are death knights that constantly do challenging content.
Buff up what we have. We are even getting AMZ.
There is no need for presences. Auras were better anyways since they weren’t selfish abilities. Presences and stances are out, they have either been baked in or not needed anymore.
Imo, for updated presences:
Blood presence gives passive leech, on par with demon hunters.
Frost presence increases damage taken by nearby enemies.
Unholy presence increases haste and movement speed.
Tbh though i want cross spec diseases back too, or at least frost fever and blood plague for unholy spec so I can stack moar dots
Well thats how they worked you had a blood presence unholy and frost. Each of them did something different and like the paladin ones it didn’t mater what spec you were you could use them. They were great and i miss them greatly.
Yes this is what they should come back as.