Bummed about allied races

First off, I already unlocked allied races on my account - this is about new players.

I’m just bummed that people still want allied races locked behind a quest line. I finally got my irl friend hyped about the game and he is dead-set on maining a Zandalari troll.

I’m just sad to see his first time through the game will be spending several days trying to get the race he wants to play as opposed to enjoying his first wow character.

Edit: I’m super happy rep is gone if anything so at least there is that!

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They’re removing the reputation requirement in Shadowlands. The questline is easy.

But yeah, they should just be normal races at this point.

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When my brother started playing the game, he wanted to be a death knight.

When I told him that he’d need to get to 55 first, guess what he did?

He played a paladin until 55 and then switched to Death Knight the MOMENT he hit 55 and never looked back.

If your friend isn’t a wuss, he’ll do the same thing as my brother.

It’s okay to have to work towards goals.

:cake:

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Yes but deathknight is different. You get to pick up at the lvl you left off on your other character.

He is still going to grind for one - I’m just bummed he can’t enjoy his Zandalari at the start.

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They really should. I didn’t even think about this

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Yeah, with Shadowlands coming out & the new starting zone, it kinda makes sense to make the races more obtainable for a lower level character to achieve. I dont know about completely opening it up, but just reducing the level requirement of the recruitment quest, along with abolition of the rep requirement.

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Currently, before they remove the rep requirements, you loose all that rep progress if you reroll to get the heritage armor. That doesn’t happen with a dk either.

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Why? Most of the introductory quest are pretty alright. I quite enjoyed unlocking Kul’tiran.

25:30 that was legitimately a really cool little cinematic. That’s the kind of stuff WoW needs more of.

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That’s not a good response at all. Not everyone has the time to consume good chunks of time into unlocking allied races behind gates rep gains.

It should be unlockable, but through story. Not through doing the same WQs 100x over and over again until your brain melts.

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You don’t have to do world quests to unlock the race in Shadowlands.

Why does everyone want everything handed to them on a silver platter?

I’m guessing it’s a generational thing.

:cake:

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The Nightborne quest takes like 5 minutes.

The Highmountain one, on the other hand…

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i dont think the OP is talking about the short quests when you get them unlocked, i think he means stuff like Insurrection or You Are Prepared or the war campaigns

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Ohhh… are those even required? I had no idea, since I just did them anyway during Legion.

(What requires the War Campaign? That thing is long.)

yes, those are still required

i think dark irons/maghar orcs require it?

yea I don’t think removing the rep minimum matters much for Kultiran and Zandalari specifically. The rest of the races are pretty easy to unlock.

You still need to do 35~ chapters of quests to unlock them.

I’m inclined to think things are a little different when playing a video game. If you aren’t at least having tangential fun when working for a goal in a game, then what’s the point? Your brother probably found some kind of enjoyment out of leveling as a Paladin, or perhaps leveling in general (some of the storylines are enjoyable). If not, he most likely would have played something else. As far as I know, people generally don’t force themselves to play a game unless it’s their job.

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Do you think the OP’s friend may find the same enjoyment as he unlocks the Zandalari?

Seems possible; even likely.

:cake:

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I didn’t mean to imply he wouldn’t. I was only stating that there’s more to consider than just willpower.

He can play a normal, classic Troll, which is a lovely race, and the first one I ever played in the game. Later on, once he has experience S’lands, he can always go back and work on the allied races.

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No it’s not a generation thing. Theres a lot to do in wow. Spending an hour or two doing all the WQs everyday is aweful game design. People just dont want a repeated experience that’s all.

I unlocked them all through grinding, and I think its important that the wow player base increases. A player coming back is going to be discouraged from doing so, and to me that’s not right.

Theres already so much to do aside from rep grinding at max level now with copious amounts of RNG. Players want to have fun when they come home from work/school l. Not grind until bedtime.

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