[Bug] Sweeping Strikes isn't consistent

Been trying to bring this to light since the beginning of classic era servers and it’s still an issue in SoM. Anytime I try to bring attention to it I get responses such as “Oh well it works fine for me” or “Maybe you’re just not using it right or in range” rather than support and people actually submitting bug reports.

I assure you I know how Sweeping Strikes works, I’ve been playing warrior a very long time…but there are times when the ability just flat out does not work. I assume the people telling me it’s working fine just aren’t paying attention when they use the ability or are fury and don’t even have the ability. Hopefully others have noticed it and know what I’m talking about.

Can we get this fixed already? It’s really annoying having an inconsistent ability that is borderline a wasted talent half the time, but unfortunately is a must have in order to get Mortal Strike…

(P.S. don’t strip a gear over the last part and it being a wasted talent. I know it is VERY good…when it actually works)

Submit it as a bug report over at https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/wow-classic/wow-classic-bug-report/199.

It helps if you can describe steps on how to reproduce it and so as to respond to questions like:

  1. How often does it happen?
  2. Does it happen on every kind of mob or just specific ones?
  3. Does it happen only after a certain event like a Dodge, Miss, Block, Parry, etc?
  4. A video showing it also helps.
  1. Is there just one other nearby mob, or more than one?
  2. Are the other mob(s) in your melee range?
  3. How are the other mob(s) positioned relative to you and your target?

I use SS constantly and haven’t noticed any glaring issue. Sometimes it won’t work because I assume the targets aren’t quite close enough but if I adjust positioning and bring them closer together it never really fails.

Can you describe in detail what the issue is?

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I’ll try it, but I’ve done that in the past and I’m not sure of how likely it is to be noticed because I think that forum is also clouded with TBC classic and classic era.

  1. It’s actually pretty often. Just happened to me twice back to back in game just now actually.
  2. I haven’t noticed a difference in different types of mobs.
  3. No, appears to just be entirely random when it works and when it doesn’t.
  4. I actually do have 2 different clips of this issue but am unsure of how to post them on the forum here.
  1. One other mob
  2. I would think so, the two mobs are right next to each other and I’ve even gone as far as to switching to the other mob just to be sure it’s in melee range.
  3. Side by side basically

Not sure how much detail I can provide. There are times I charge a target, pull an extra and use Sweeping Strikes and the ability just flat out doesn’t work. Sometimes it does get corrected with repositioning, sometimes it doesn’t. I wish I knew how to upload clips to show everyone that I’m not crazy or at the very least, learn what I’m doing wrong to trigger the ability to not work.

Sorry for the late response, been a busy week.

Most video content is posted via a link to a video hosting website like YouTube. I don’t think you can upload directly to the forums.

And yes, the WoW Classic Bug Reports Forum is the official place to submit bug reports of all WoW Classic versions (Era, TBCC and SoM). They’re all in there. Visibility is not guaranteed but bug reports in General Discussions forum (this one) is even less probable that it will be seen.

I bet it would correct itself if you slowly backpedal a little bit when positioning mobs. backing up a bit can help correctly position them in front of you, allowing them to be detected in the cleave cone.

Well if that’s the case here’s the link to both clips

In the meantime I’ll make a post in the bug forum.

Wow. You’re right. It clearly isn’t working well.

Glad to know I’m not just losing my mind. Lol

This is really interesting. I was testing it on my warrior and definitely some things were off. I noticed I missed a few procs here and there and I got a proc off a parried Whirldwind from a second target (second target parried it and Sweeping Strikes hit my main target).

I also noticed in the Combat Log all AOE physical attacks like Cleave and Whirlwind register the hits on the secondary targets BEFORE the hit on the main target, and they in fact hit the secondary targets first because if you have just one Sweeping Strike left, and do a Cleave or Whirlwind, you’ll see the Sweeping Strike hit your main target and not the secondary one. Combat log also shows all the secondary target’s hit information first. I found this VERY odd and I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be like that. I would have thought the main target is always hit first.

Another thing I found is that if you kill a mob with a special attack like Execute, the combat log shows the “player has slain …” message BEFORE the killing blow message. I reported this one as a bug just in case. This does not happen when you kill with white damage attack. Really odd.

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Good to know. So in that case it is actually beneficial to switch to your secondary target if your main target is low and close to dying, otherwise I assume the charge of Sweeping Strikes is wasted.

Appreciate the support and you reporting this bug. This is something I’ve been trying to fight for a couple years now and nothing has been done as of yet. Hoping to get the ball rolling to get it fixed.

I’ve never seen this before.

It shows your SS charges are being used up, but no damage.

Can you show what it displays in the default UI combat log?

Yeah, next time it happens I’ll record the combat log as well. Stay tuned.

This is because of Tauren Hitbox. While most of the time this plays out in a tauren warrior’s favor, in cases like this, awareness of your extra large reach will clue you in to cases where something isn’t working for you, but it is for others (in this case, the range of Sweeping Strikes, the spell effect itself, is less than the maximum melee range for a tauren) You’ll only see this near the edge of your hitbox, and since positioning of units isn’t exactly synchronous between client and server, you can ensure mobs are “well within reach” of you by micro-adjusting frequently right after closing distances.

This is really interesting. Maybe it’s more Tauren-specific, since in all my tests I missed a couple Sweeping Strikes but nothing like in the videos, even while standing still and not adjusting them. Seeing the second video the bear’s position might just be at his max melee range causing the Tauren problem again.