MAKE CLASSIC GREAT AGAIN. PLEASE BUFF WSG HONOR 2X and NERF AV 2X. THE GAME IS 10X BETTER THAT WAY.
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Just buff WSG 2x, why nerf av
Complain that everyone will have R14 and its too easy and then complain when blizz stops making it easy
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make WSG great agane!!!
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Please don’t listen to the entitled child in their ivory tower running premades.
No nerfs
You can buff WSG if you want though.
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Which thing are they supposed to buff?
Randoms joining a WSG that lose get 1 mark and whatever honor the HKs are worth. If the game drags on for a bit and they aren’t getting many kills (typical) it isn’t very much honor to show for it. Getting 5 capped in AB also similarly doesn’t gain much of anything for a total shutout.
I would think the thing that needs a buff is an honor incentive to show up in WSG/AB for the losers to get them to get people queueing up. Otherwise if you are just a dude trying to rank for your 2 piece blue set or something then losing your way to the goal in AV is far better use of time. I’m just saying.
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premades seething
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WSG is already better hph than AV for premades, any buff to it would have to benefit pugs getting destroyed by premades more than it benefits premades themselves.
Like double the honor, but only if you solo queu… Ideally this would make everyone happy, solo q players would be more inclined to bother in wsg, while the premades would be getting more lambs to slaughter.
That being said, considering how the structure of wsg works and the massive dependence on flag captures or hks (neither of which they’re going to get vs any non garbo premade)… Solo players may still get absolutely terrible honor/hour in wsg.
I’d add two things:
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Any effort to incentivize WSG should ALSO incentivize AB (maybe even more so, AB is by far a better BG). Getting all 3 BGs popping would obviously be the ideal.
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It would also seem clear from the AV stealth nerfs that blizz has at least some concerns about making the r14 grind too easy. Buffs to wsg/ab might end up causing nerfs elsewhere… particularly for the premade crowd (which already exceeds AV hph)
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Glad to see most people are being reasonable about this. WSG/AB is terrible for solo queuing. If you want to fix it then fix solo queuing HPH
Your solution just shifts the meta; it solves none of the problems that underpin WoW Era’s PvP system design faults.
The biggest problem is that most players solo Q AB / WSG until premades become more common than pugs making pugs rare and in turn premades start dodging because they are not there for competition but honor per hour.
What needs to happen is WSG and AB need to be variable in how they reward points. Hard well fought battles need to reward far better honor values making actual combat a worthwhile thing.
Until actual PvP and fighting back are useful, the system will always devolve into smashing pugs and avoiding effort, skill and “game play required” Its the same in Arena and RBG too, the only difference is you stack your comp to do minimal work instead.
Missing those pugs aren’t you! 
Get used to it!