You are missing the part in the formula listed as “base_weapon_damage” - slower weapons have a higher base weapon damage than faster ones at the same DPS.
Chimera Shot uses 100% weapon damage, meaning a slower weapon will hit harder than a faster one, as it has higher base weapon damage.
BM is technically the current spec, just melee BM, which was only a few dps different than Surv melee hunter. Surv melee hunter was also only good because of 1-2 talents…
But yeah, buff marks.
I would argue otherwise when your dots are capable of ticking whil you are casting non-periodic spells and being capable of moving around to dodge boss mechanics with no punishment.
Bumping this thread so Blizzard looks at buffing Ranged Hunter (REVERSE THE CHANGES TO BM RUNE) make Traps and Serpent Sting scale with Ranged AP and buff Chimera to do more than an auto-shot.
Feels like garbage too. Pets barely scale, they get no benefit from any of the world buffs in game, they get no bonus from hunter hit/crit/haste, or spell power, and they get none of the battleground bonuses. Once you hit a level your pet is what it is and it barely improves based off ranged attack power only.
We’re forced into melee because ranged hunter suffers from massive scaling and buff issues too, on top of having the worst runes of any class in the game.
Yes, Bestial Wrath doesn’t use all your mana and make it so your pet can’t attack. Arcane surge only one shots on a crit. Also I don’t use Arcane Surge. Its for 1v1 dueling and its a meme in bgs and I do think it should be reworked. I have said in many forums, it doesn’t feel good for the user or the receiver. So your “Gotcha” is dumb.
To clarify even more. Unless you only care about dueling, Surge is a meme. And you are bad if you have to rely on it.
And the same for Bestial Wrath but worse. Its a no input and skill less ability that is CC immune. And has no counterplay. And it is a guarantee kill on me if I do not have a healer. And a skill that requires almost 0 input, that you don’t even have to be LOS should not do that.
So no, you will never be able to convince me it should do more damage.
Meanwhile pets are still 100-0ing players in 2 seconds. There isn’t a good middleground, BM has always been a trash spec but its the only one blizzard can make viable because their dev team is comically inept.
Beastial Wrath is not a one shot, nor is it a guaranteed win button. In Battlegrounds pets do not gain any health bonus. They are easily 1-2 shot by almost every class. If you’re losing to a pet in a battleground it’s likely because you’re in a position you should not be in. Since it’s not a 1 shot mechanic either you can use defensive abilities or just kill the hunter who as you put it, can absolutely be 1 shot by your class.
You have to be in LoS to use both Beastial Wrath and Intimidation
That’s just not happening. 2 seconds is extremely hyperbolic and you know it is. Pet damage is much lower than all forms of player damage. Pet survivability is lower than all player survivability.
I got hit with claw twice in a row in moonkin form today for a total of 1400 damage, so… its not hyperbolic at all.
Yeah, I’m gonna need to see the logs there bud. 360% armor bonus and an ability that does auto attack damage. Strongly doubt that you’re not spinning a tall tale.
where you naked and sitting down? there is NO way claw 6 can do 700 damage even on a crit. I am a full BM with the rake and claw/bite6 and if I only use kill command and pop WB and only claw (the first ability is juiced up with kill command) it doesnt even remotely come close to 400 damage on a crit vs a level 40 mob
i am reviewing the logs from the full clear gnomer raid i did last night and during that raid my cat casts 456 claws 164.4 was the average claw damage, it hit 401 times with a 9.68% miss (32.6dps)
my highest claw was 257.7 and that was vs STX-13/LL
Yeah this didn’t happen lol
Hey blizzard, just bumping this since you can’t seem to read the data from the raids. Ranged hunters still really suck, they are below some tanks in dps. They could use a big big buff. God bless.
Dunno what to tell you, hunter had bestial on CD, I open, hibernate pet, hunter runs, pet heartbeats out, root and dps pet, bestial wrath off CD, pet opens, die in 2 claws + white hits. (about 4 white hits ranging from low 100s to 180 give or take).
Crazy how (ranged) BM hunters are doing very low dps on gnomeregan bosses with a pet that does 50% of their dmg yet a moonkin with the same amount of armor dies in 2s to that pet.
Bestial wrath is a powerful cd though. But it’s far from an outlier in this low ttk meta.
well you could probably tell the truth, what really happened was a hunter pet clawed you once… a shaman snuk in 1 hit for 1200 damage and the hunter pet’s 2nd claw did 134 damage and you saw you died to claw in “2” hunter claw attacks
Im horde rip that theory.
horde can kill horde in stv, next
Are these players naked???
The pet does not do that much burst even with kill command and BW active.
Imagine not having your STV rewards yet.