Idk. I’d say in shuffle shadow priest is better
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it could be argued and you wouldnt be wrong. Either way both SP and Feral are at the bottom of the totem pole for sure frost DK too?
I don’t like death knights in general. Class can get deleted
Maybe try 2s while waiting for buffs? There are currently three ferals in the top 50 in 2v2, so it seems pretty viable with pres voker or rdruid.
It is called tuning. Not gutting. The rotation and play style was smooth. Cyclone praying waiting for the perfect moment for a burst that can be shut down is just yuck. Give me my bleed swipe rip bite your face heal rotation back.
I think you miss read this. Currently I did not say that damage was bad I said it need defense, survivability. It is super squishy. My priests are tankier. If they wont make it great again then at least give it a little survivability love.
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Because it really is just that bad of a spec right now.
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I don’t think I misread anything. I literally quoted your post.
This is what you said in its entirety.
Feral was not gutted whatsoever. They had broken damage and their damage was appropriately tuned to not do 3x the damage of every other class. Feral/ret/FW, Feral/aug/fw, and feral/dk/fw were all S tier comps S1/2.
If you don’t like the pvp talent then just say that, but you can’t deny it’s absurdly strong.
You even see your post quoted. Feral survivability hasnt been nerfed in any way since shadowlands. You literally said:
The only “changes” were the obscene damage being tuned appropriately.
You were asking for damage to be buffed first and saying that defenses would be a band-aid.
I don’t think I misread, I think that you misspoke. Don’t backpedal and try to misrepresent your claim. Say what you mean.
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He is playing atm
Also:
Even the multi r1 lifetime feral main says feral isn’t anything less than A tier.
If you says feral is poorly designed you are 100% correct
If you say feral is bad then you are straight up delusional.
Re read… I don’t know what to say I even put it in bold when I re quoted. Nor did I say shadow lands. Season one pre nerf DF. Please read before attacking people. Bottom line if you don’t like what I said move on. My opinion is just that. You don’t have to agree. But please read defense and not try to make it about offense.
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Buddy. You’re not saying what you think you are saying.
I am now quoting it a 3rd time.
You said, “the best way to fix Feral is to revert it back to pre changes in season one.”
The only changes that happened in that period you are asking about were very reasonable damage tunings.
If you are saying to revert those, then you are aksing for obscene damage buffs.
If a ret paladin came in and said, “the best way to fix Ret is to revert it back to 10.0.7. Other than that a Band-Aid would be to buff the defenses a bit” people would say that that is insane. That is what you were articulating.
You yourself said that defense would only be a Band-Aid. What myself and 99% of people in the thread has said was to buff defense and not damage. You were the only person who has talked about buffing damage.
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Ferals issues stem from this.
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feral survival is historically highly dependant on kiting with self heals.
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currently kiting is not possible with the infinate gap closers most melee have now.
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self heals are garbage plus additionally nerfed straight off the bat in solo shuffle making them near obsolete.
Feral damage is fine, that’s not the issue.
To fix feral you need either a better disincentive to attack them OR vastly buff their survival cds.
Yes feral is playable to a highish rating as proven by some pros but persistence will get you high in solo shuffle but not S tier high which ferals arnt.
Most pros are playing other classes and rarely play their ferals in shuffle. Simply because it’s just NOT fun at all.
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… Were am I talking about offense? If they are not going to put us back to the bite bleed build with good survivability then yes buff defense, Where do I say offense? Rotation… build, no where did I say damage or offense… I think you just want to fight with some one. No where have I said that feral is bad out side of being squishy. I just do not like the current playstyle IE the cyclone build and pray. I prefer the bleed bite heal. 
I don’t know what else to say… I can not be any more clear. Revert it back to pre nerf season 1 DF for playstyle/rotation or at least buff survivability/defense.
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You can just play that now and not use the cyclone talent if you don’t want to then. That playstyle still exists in the exact same way!
I tried playing feral without even taking Cyclone one time. It was amazing how shallow and void of utility the spec felt. Makes you wonder why cyclone is even in the talent tree and not baseline in the first place.
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And then you have people demanding cyclone nerfs without realizing how much of a staple it is to Druids
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10.0.5 I think was the start of all the changes. Where they laterally moved talents around in the tree. Then nerfed us even more in pvp. But they wanted to reward boomies… I remember what happened after. 
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yet the trees still suck for feral and druid