Buffing drums would benefit the M+ community especially the pug scene where it’s currently pretty hard to build a group because you’re look for someone with bloodlust/heroism. In it’s current state drums is pretty useless at 15% like you can barely tell the difference while it’s active. IMO it should be brought back to 25% if not then 20% would be a compromise.
This would only benefit the majority of M+ players and will have no impact on balancing the top players pushing the best time because they will still want a well balanced group that has lust anyways. A lot of groups are just sitting at 4/5 looking for lust and being a group is very difficult because you have to reject experienced characters just so you can get something that seems essential for a smooth run.
My experience with M+ dungeon back in legion was much better as far as pugging goes because it was more easy to get in groups because people did not have to build a perfect comp to do something that should be pretty casual (+16 for instance).
Also this doesn’t lower the desirability of classes with lust but increases the ones without it so it’s a positive with no negative.
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I don’t have any issues finding a lust
Making up things doesn’t help your argument.
16s are still casual even 20s are casual.
Your experience is subjective and could be based on multiple scenarios.
Nooooo! My ability to lust as BM or MM gets me into groups lol.
I don’t think they should unless they bring all the class buffs back as purchables. That way it will be even more of a gold investment for everyone.
The thing is bloodlust isn’t just any small buff, its a huge buff that feels essential and M+ dungeons are balanced and tuned around it.
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Its 15% haste for like 30 seconds right now I believe every 10 minutes.
Blood lust is 30%. Its like pretty good already since you are bringing another buff/utility technically.
Stuff like mark of the wild is 3% damage at all times vs something with 5% uptime.
Then you got stuff like war/mage buff.
Pally devotion aura.
Demonhunter buffI think monk has a buff.
Then you got debuffs like rogue or warlock or dk…
We could be fair with all that utility.
That’s my point 16s should be casual yet building a group feels like you’re trying to solve a math equation finding stuns/interrupts/knockback/brez ON TOP of getting something that feels required/essential (lust).
On the other hand if you’re solo queing looking for a group it’s painfully difficult to get into one as a melee unless you’re an enh shaman (could take up to 30m+).
M+ is meant to be some what casual and not take up 15-30m just finding a group before spending 30-40m in a dungeon. IMO buffing drums benefit the whole community.
Quit trying to take things away from classes that make them special.
They are casual.
You just be really bad at math.
Stop trying to Que for things you aren’t qualified for.
Nah it’s even easier now finding lust with evoker btw can everyone have your cloak or whatever it’s called I don’t play rogue and we all know why rogues have been brought in so many instances.
In M+ only, all tanks should have lust and an aoe stun and an incap and shroud and all healers should have brez and a short interrupt and decurse and purge. All dps should have ST stun and an aoe stun and offheals and offtank (earth ele, mass entangle, etc) abilities. Suddenly every group has everything.
Drums should be 25%, the difference is too big to not be forced to bring a lust class for high keys.
atleast give a tank spec bloodlust
should be a source per role
also think dispels need to be more equal
prevokers can dispel everything but a disease goes out and all i can do is pepehands lol
also having to talent into extra dispels as a healer is lame
I enjoy rolling up to a group and knowing they’re going through the internal gymnastics of “oh dang that hunter has a spear, but if we ditch them then we need to find someone else who can push an urgleurgleurgleurgle button”.
I’ve only been kicked once!
I play causal , and i list my 15 key and no one signs up cuz of my io…
I refuse to invite hunters as a sole lust because 90% are MM and 90% of those absolutely refuse to get out a lust pet on bosses because “muh 5% personal dps”.
Except the lust is always with cooldowns which stack with each other. Classes burst for hundreds of thousands while only maintaining like 80k.
Ask a Fire or Arcane Mage if they would rather have PI or a DH Buff. 99% would choose PI because those specs do dogwater damage outside of cooldowns so the “100% uptime” buff isn’t as valuable.
They should absolutely bring back all the class buffs as purchasables.
OR triple-up on the debuffs, like they did in Wrath. If multiple classes have Bloodlust and battle rez, multiple classes should have INT buff and Mystic Touch.
This is an interesting sentence.
An additional 15% haste you say you can barely tell it’s up.
But the difference between drums and actual BL is also 15%…
Wouldn’t you also in that case be barely be able to tell the difference?