Evoker is way to squishy. It has the worst survivability out of any class. All melee has to do is train the Evoker and slow the Evoker… Blizzard needs to give us a shield… the armor buff was no good. Give Evokers a shield similar to mages. Why don’t Evokers have a Shield. They are dragons who harness primal energy yet we do not get a shield??? why no warlocks, shamans and priest get a thousand shields and defensives ?
And why Blizzard is Preservation Evoker a S+ tier healer and Devastation is barely B tier ? dps… you made a glass that can only do anything with 1 or 2 abilities… Make Evoker have better single target damage and survivability. Please
Blizzard - you did a good job making a class that has decent burst and damage. I think Evoker is fun… but why make it where its a piece of paper ?? Evoker is worst than any other class in the game when it comes to surviving… and oh by the way living flame heals and blossom heals are complete garbage !!! DKs and Dhs can heal 5 times as much… yet you let Affliction locks be more Tanky than guardian druids… Give devastation Evoker a shield and better survivability you don’t have to buff the damage… or give me a job as a PvP dev… I know unreal 5.0 … but wont take less thank 100k a year
Isn’t it just because people don’t have gear yet?
There’s one ability i see DPS evokers using that does very good damage, and i’m pretty sure they don’t have the stats to support it.
Yeah people are early-judging this class without the right stats and knowledge of how to play/BIS talents in the early stages. By lvl 70 we’ll have different BIS talents for great DPS.
If you have a good talent build, I’d LOVE it if you could drop that import. If not, thats cool. I’ve been playing with it, but balancing seems kinda odd.
I have a good single target and m+ build. Definitely need to do more research on the pvp build.
No. I do not have a good build by any means. With the Evokers you kinda need to get a good distance away and try to nuke who and what you can and then you will do good. But in most 1v1 you get ate up. They seem to be best as support for PvP in BGs as a dps. They are not that good at running in a bunker and soling 3 or more people in it or even being that reliable to trust them to carry a flag in WSG or EoTS without getting squished.
I am a skilled PvPer on many classes but I wont be trying Evoker out for much. They do good in BGs. In closed tight spaces like you find in most arenas, it doesnt end well for them.
I don’t think the class is really salvageable at this juncture. It just feels… badly conceived. Like, take deep breath - it has a slow animation, it doesn’t actually do amazing damage, it requires a really specific set of circumstances to be utilized properly, and it requires a cone aiming system.
By contrast, blink is instantaneous, relatively unpredictable, cannot be directly tracked via watching animations, and isn’t tied to a disruptive AOE attack. Basically, blink is everything deep breath isn’t: good.
And so much of the destruction evoker’s kit is like that - a bad caricature of actual, functional skills from other classes. All told, it just isn’t executed well.
You probably need to spec into as mqny movement skills and defensives as you can
Verdant Embrace (dash to an ally) can get you out of melee range for a while
Obsidian scales with 2 charges
Rescue (dash to ally and take you both to a destination hopefully near a pillar) comes with a 30% health absorb if you spec into it
Renewing Blaze (heals you up after the burst if you can get range)
Its going to take people a while to get used to evokers and how they work so we wont know what their pvp scaling looks like for at least a few weeks into the season.
That makes sense. There was a talent I saw that looked super trollish.
Like rescue, but for enemies lol. Snatch them and carry them away. Could be useful for efc, or pulling healers out of the group.
Because someone had to dethrone Resto Shaman as best AOE healer
Yuh that was awful they’re much better now then before like literally able to out heal that World boss outside Caverns of Time before probably would of just gotten one shot