Broken/Krokul, DHs & allied races

The origional conscept for the TBC races was an inversion of the traditional faction themes as well as a class-swap of Paladin and Shaman.

The Horde got the Blood Elves, traditionally beautiful race that had a history with The Alliance and brought paladins into The Horde.

The Alliance were going to get the savage and brutal Broken Ones. The draenei as they appeared in Warcraft III. Tribal, near-feral survivors of the broken world of dreanor. They were a natural fit to bring shaman into the Alliance

But somewhere in the creative process someone must have been like *“but they ugly tho. How’bout foxy demon-folk instead?”*Then everyone agreed loudly on no more uggos, high fived and the rest is history.

But how will the ultra-civilized, beautiful and technologically advanced draenei who are obsessed with the holy light bring shaman into The Alliance? Well. They like. Know one of those gross broken guys or something. It’ll be fine. Everything’s fine.

And everything was fine. The end.

That’s incorrect. The original race were the Pandaren for the Alliance but they had not the license rights to them back then. That’s also why the Alliance-race was shown later and not together with the Blood Elves.

The pandaren were initially planned to be the new playable race for the Alliance in World of Warcraft’s first expansion, The Burning Crusade, but about halfway through development they were replaced with the draenei.[9][10][11] In a Q&A thread on Reddit in April 2020, former Blizzard artist Trent Kaniuga stated that this was because the Chinese government told Blizzard that they couldn’t use pandas in the game. By that point, the artists had already created concept art for pandaren cities and buildings, but the change happened early enough in development that not much content was cut. The developers would not get permission to implement pandas until 5 years later. According to Kaniuga, “In reality it was probably just that they needed more time to negotiate it. Panda’s[sic] are a national treasure in China, so it takes a lot of negotiating to work a deal to distribute characters that look like that in China.”[12][13]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/History_of_pandaren_in_Warcraft#Scrapped_race_in_The_Burning_Crusade

Good to see you wasted time collecting threads to get those two massive likes nitpicking and attempting to correct my opinion. Bet that was the highlight of your day lmao

Wait what?

Does China own pandas as an intellectual property the same way Nintendo owns Mario?

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At most they should be Draenei/LFD customization, not a playable race, never a playable race.

Another poster mentioned this earlier, but they would be unfathomably unpopular.

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In a world where gnomes and Kul Tirans exist, I don’t see why this would be a problem.

This in no way harms players. It just creates a little extra work for the devs who have to come up with different racials, heritage armor, and hire new voice actors. All of which help sell the fantasy to the players that are asking for it in the first place.

Why is that bad?

And you would be incorrect. Just like the other two were. People have been asking for Broken since BC was announced. Examples of a few threads have already been posted. It was a big uproar when we first got Draenei announced instead and every iteration of the forums since has had topics about it.

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Yes. You can’t get them without paying a license fee. I’m serious here.
This is also true for Zoos.

For physical pandas this makes sense. All pandas come from China, and the only way that zoos get them is by entering into a loan agreement with the Chinese government.

I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think that’s quite the same thing as owning the COPYRIGHT for all panda imagery.

Like, I can’t expect to find royalty-free imagery of Mario that Nintendo hasn’t already cleared in a press release. But I CAN go on pixabay and download a bunch of giant panda photos.

People were asking for mecha gnomes and kul tirans too and those did not turn out remotely great, i don’t even remember the last time i SAW a kul tiran or mecha gnome walking around.

Fact of the matter is as “popular” as the loud minority like to say, broken would not be a “hit” playable race to the song of races like void elves, people do not like playing ugly races, that’s why more than half the Horde is Blood Elves. At most they should be customization for Draenei.

Because all the time, money and effort would be better put to more interesting races rather than a 3rd clone of a race we already have, or customizations for various races that desperately need them, like Worgen.

“Playable races” need to start being reserved for actual, unique, races that we encounter, races like Sethrak or Ogres come to mind. Anything that just factors in as a “clone or reskin” of an already existing playable race should be customization options at most.

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People wanted REAL Mechagnomes. What we got was junk Gnomes. Big difference.

No. No one asked for KT like they’ve been for Broken.

And what people wanted from KT was not a race.

“I don’t know what I’m talking about and haven’t been here since the original Broken outrage, so I’ll just use buzz phrases.”

Oh so this is all it is: you don’t want Broken, so you’ll dismiss them with misinformation.

Got it. Moving on. Have a nice day.

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To be fair, people who play humans with pointy ears on Horde are just Alliance-players who want to look like an angel on earth.

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I’ve actually been around since vanilla and the sheer fact that i have never heard of the broken outcry is proof that it isn’t as popular as you seem to think it is, they literally added Man’ari before touching Broken because that is the aesthetically better option.

That being said I never said they shouldn’t add Broken, they totally should, as customization for Draenei, not an entirely new playable race that’s actually the 3rd clone of a race we already have, that will go the way of Kul Tiran and Mechagnomes.

Never said this.

You seem to be immediatly defensive over criticism that broken never received from my end, i think they should be added as customization, i don’t think they’ve earned playable race status even remotely.

All the proof you need is in a few hours when this post is burried and a few weeks when no one’s talking about Broken anymore.

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That you haven’t been around and paid attention.

You literally ignored the other threads listed more recently, the entirety of Legion where people begged again for them and that the FIRST THING many thought of when doing the new questline was that major point.

And yet you’re in here claiming the following:

Nope. Just clearing up misinformation disguised as dismissal.

LOL was a nonsensical comment. “A thread that’s been up for a day, plus all of the other ones means nothing because like every other topic it’ll stop being on top!”

So I guess people don’t care about Belfs/Helfs either, because those threads haven’t been up for long in a while. :upside_down_face:

This is why I stopped conversing with you.

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Honestly, that’s a wise decision I am going to make as well myself.

Why can’t people just admit they’re wrong or misinformed. Like it’s not a crime or embarrassing, we’ve all been there sometimes.

The audacity to just continue denying Broken/Krokuul are a popular race demand. Just lol.

I was wrong about something with Warriors today and then accidentally messed up trust level words. I admit it, I am absolutely nowhere near perfect and I am wrong a lot. LOL

I think it just boils down to, “I don’t really care about it, so I’m going to dismiss it, because I never paid attention to it.”

Although, for me the interesting part is: no females. So Broken could be the first race that’s entirely non-binary. And if they had a ton of customization, it wouldn’t even phase me in the slightest. I just always loved the Broken. :slight_smile:

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You seem to be under the delusional impression that there is a right or wrong answer.

Fact of the matter is they’re not going to make Broken a 3rd clone of a race that’s already playable, they’re going to make it customization, it’s wild to me to think that people think a 3rd playable draenei race is more likely than the latter in customizations, it flat out isn’t, they learned their mistake from Kul Tirans and Mechagnomes.

Imagine thinking your C tier race is worthy of a playable race slot after the allied race disaster rather than the hundreds of other unique and unexplored races out there.

But nah, give me an ugly draenei variant for the 3rd time.

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There is a right or wrong answer when it comes to which AR demand is more popular, whether Broken or Tuskarr.

That’s what I was referring to.

It’s impossible to add Broken as a customization to Draenei as they’re completely different in-game models. It’s technically impossible to add Broken as a ”skin”.

You’re wrong, the Draenei are the best race in WoW! Your race is just jealous they have pretty women. The women from your race are long eared Barbie dolls.

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This is factually incorrect, the Broken models, specifically the new, Legion, Broken models, share the same rig/skeleton as our playable Draenei with the customization of Broken Dranei, back tentacles, obviously their faces, fel scars, darker skin, what have you.