Look at your statistics Blizzard, I guarantee you that this is the most deserted epic BG on the list. Few people like this crap and it’s just poor design. I would love to see stats on how often offense wins this thing.
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Yes, get stomped on the first SR brawl and half the team leaves. But that’s a culture problem, not a design flaw on the BG, imo.
Getting stomped sucks but I have won many matches where a big part of the team left. The come back wins are very sweet. I also have fun even when losing, just by the nature of individual skirmishes and farming honor. Conquest is capped anyway. You win 3 in a week, you’ve got it.
Oh, I know I would queue Epic BGs more if I wasn’t going to be stuck in Wintergrasp. It is beyond boring.
Rated epic BGs still exist?
I haven’t done RBGs in a long time but assumed that’d be gone.
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ya i say on u goodjob how pepole gonna no there in winter garps , the anser is u gonna go in and u no u gonna lose but gotta be 40 mins in their to do it . goodjob scriblet on ur smartbrain
Just me showing my ineptitude. Edited.
Anyway, better than Ashran, where I have to guess what’s happening because I have -1 fps.
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Yup, having blacklist back would be ideal
Boring BG is boring. Even if you’re winning Wintergrasp it’s 
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ya ur a smart do u no it . winter garps is goodtry but pepole like AV how come aint more battle grond like AV yet ?
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Good question 
Alterac Valley is like Coca-Cola, “the new stuff just ain’t as good as the original”
The fact AV is still good/still fun 19 years later is pretty telling, back then devs knew how to design a fun BG map… not this boring “vehicles” and “PvE siege” crap from more recent years 
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I’ll gladly take 1 blacklist for regular and epic BGs. I’d block Seething Shore and Wintergrasp
Defenders always win, attackers always lose.
That’s pretty much the gist of it.
The first battle over Sunken Ring usually decides the winner.
Personally, I think Ashran is worse, only because it’s a lot longer.
At least a group of people with demolishers can reduce a 40 minute battle to only 5ish minutes, by getting the towers.
Ashran, you’re stuck in there. I almost always leave Ashran before it’s done- it’s the epic battleground that easily takes the most time.
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The main problem with WG is tuning. They need to buff attackers (again). I think it’d be fun if there was an even chance of either side winning.
why do you write like this?
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It’s very common that the defender side will get SR then overextend on offense, the whole team goes to east workshop thinking it’s gg, while they move in from BT and get in. When I’m on defender side and we get SR, I immediately start calling out for BT defense, but it’s often no use. Maybe some tuning is in order, thought, idk.
Let us blacklist a dungeon too please.
This toon almost made it to the first boss of NO before I just logged off. 
Yeah, I try to coordinate backdoor attacks and stuff, just to try and change the results.
Most of the time, my suggestions go ignored.
It’s hard to combat the herd mentality, lol.
I’m sure it would actually be easier to win Wintergrasp as attackers, if folks wanted to vary their strategies a little.
Because bum-rushing SR from the front rarely works.
Wintergrasp use to be a fun BG back in the days…but that was back when LK was live…I got my 100,000 kill in Wintergrasp May 23, 2010…folks have moved onto other BG’s with new expansions…
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It’s always been odd to me that they dropped Strand, then put this crap in as an epic BG.
Strand was at least kinda fun.
I never win that bg on offense. I just leave if I’m on offense now. Don’t even waste my time. Whole bg sucks imo.
I usually take the 15 minutes, and do something else for a while. It just isn’t fun for me.