You can do what you, but there never was a player who outgeared a mythic or heroic raider with bis in slot just by running LFR or doing worldquests.
I’m sorry it never happened. Your on here spreading lies maybe do to ignorance or bad information you received but it’s still spreading lies. And a person who spreads lies is a LIAR.
YOUR LYING
Im not wrong show me screenshots of your characters item level at that exact time.
Show me you maxed your character out just by doing world quests or LFR
You spreading lies and misinformation
This was not the point. I never said they outgeared them. I said they shouldn’t get any item from lower content that is equal to or above the higher content. Or in simpler terms you should not get mythic loot from lfr, you should get lfr loot from lfr. I don’t care if its one item once in a blue moon. Seeing it happen makes me feel like I have wasted my time earning the item and that my work and effort has been invalidated.
Oh hey, proof that an lfr item could be even better than the exact same item but from mythic. And it only took me 5 seconds to find. Wow.
No one in this thread is arguing you couldn’t get a max roll.
Your lying and trying to contrive some pointless argument and mislead people.
Show me the characters items level when you got that drop and you maxed it out by just doing world quests and LFR.
Your lying
Show me where I ever said anything about getting full mythic bis from doing lfr and WQs. I never did.
No one is arguing you couldn’t get a max roll
ITS WHAT WE WANT BACK.
But the fact is your misleading players and lying just to support your arguemnet.
Show me your characters item level the exact moment it rolled like that for you.
This whole thread you have been blowing smoke and nothing but lies about people getting good gear from worldquests .
TITANFORGING was rng based on your characters items level.
In other words if your item level was already high you had a greater chance to get max rolls.
It’s silly your elitist and I would respectfully request blizzard just ignore what you want from the game.
THESE PICTURES YOU SHOWED IS WHAT WE WANT BACK.
It made the game fun and the only it bothers you is you want a monopoly on all the desirable rewards. I mean you can’t get past even in this thread.
The higher item level you had the more chance of a higher rolled forge you would get.
It’s called progression.
NOONE IS ARGUING YOU COULDNT GET A MAX ROLL. But it was highly unlikely if you weren’t already a high item level.
YES YOU ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE.
Unstable Arcano Crystal would like to have a word with you. I knew so many people who were upset every single week Withered Jim was out because they could only get the lowest ilvl version of it, meanwhile some one else was lucky enough to get the max titanforged version of it, thus making them more favorable to bring in to raids due to how huge that trinket was for everyone. Keep in mind, not only was this a “world quest” only trinket, but a world boss trinket in general as Whithered Jim only spawned so often.
Honestly, if you want to bring in Titanforging or Warforging, bring it as the system it was in MoP. Let gear warforge, BUT, you can upgrade in to those warforged ilvl by using valor points. All Warforging would do is just make it so you have to spend no valor points to upgrade.
Also as for the based on ilvl part, honestly, I believe it seeing as how my horde dk quickly outgeared my main mythic raiding Alliance dk at the time, but then in comes that issue… how did a main toon of mine, which I put countless hours on, get quickly outgeared in a month, a MONTH, because they got all the titanforged pieces? That in itself doesn’t make sense.
That trinket was the coolest thing ever.
It made people do that world boss every time it was up. Withered Jim
What players like you that disliked that system have done is made WOW a boring mess that no one wants to play except people that have already been playing it.
ITS SAD AND A FACT.
WoW loot is boring now and full of gold boosters with nothing better to do because everything is linear now.
You know it and I know it Blizz will never get content out in 3 month cycles so at least spice up the loot a bit late in a patch and let people gear up.
The game is a shell of what it was because of all this nonsense.
That’s isn’t necessarily a good thing though. Every time the item doesn’t drop you have 30 players disappointed. I’m not saying everything should drop on the first kill but you have a limit which for many is well before “must farm it for a max level titan forge every time its up for 2 years”
What I’m bringing to the table isn’t removing it entirely, but making the system better. Warforging is a way better system than titanforging as it doesn’t take away from the mythic raider or heroic raiders feeling like they HAVE to do both LFR and World Quest and hope they get mythic level gear, making a more enjoyable experience for all, and if you wanna make it even better, make it so it’s also like the Shadowlands valor system where you can’t upgrade past a certain point until you get to a certain point in to the content.
I’m not misleading anyone. I’m saying that you shouldn’t get a mythic level raid item from anything other than the raid on mythic.
I got a cloak at 450 ilvl from heroic when Mythic drops 455 max ilvl gear. I got another boe cloak off trash back in Nighthold from heroic that Titanforged to 5 ivls below cap and had a tertiary stat and socket. I’m not about to go looking through my over 1000 screenshots for the picture though. Believe me or don’t I don’t care.
It was good thing the ideas that Players like you hold and have forced Blizz to implement have lead to this exodus of players.
The game is about the fans and casuals.
This game design isn’t made for fans and players anymore.
It’s made for high skill players and creators. That’s a sure fire way to lose popularity.
Have you ever heard the adage don’t make entertainment for other entertainers? It’s a sure fire way to lose popularity.
Better example
As a comedian:
“Don’t make stand up bits for other stand up comedians, make it for the audience”
But of course Blizz had to cave to all the influencer nonsense who basically jumped ship and make non stop content bashing blizzard.
Haven’t lied about a single thing. Go find my post where I said you could get fully mythic geared from WQs, because I posted no such thing.
You don’t even know how titanforging worked lol
No, it didn’t work this way at all actually.
I hope Blizzard just ignores you instead mr echo chamber. You don’t even know how the system your asking to have brought back worked.
How are you missing the point?
Your supporting what we want back.
You where doing multiple difficulties so you geared faster.
Bring what you posted back.
Let good time level drop from all content we don’t want this boring loot design we have now.
Your just supporting all my arguments with your posts bring back exactly what your showing pictures of.
How are you missing this point?
Hell, I have put forth the idea of caps on how much something could WF/TF, often just up to the base of the next difficulty (so LFR would cap at normal base, normal at heroic base, etc) and add 5-10 ilevels for mythic raid. M+ could use the table and forge 1-2 ranks higher, WQs could easily be based around character ilvl (so a normal raid geared could have a chance at heroic).
The thing is, the WF/TF argument is one of those that seems like it is best solved by anything but a binary switch with no real caps.
I know, and I don’t want it back because it undermines the efforts of other players who worked for their high item level items.
I don’t care who gets the rewards so long as they had to earn them the same way I did.
If you mean that the base level of the item made it more likely to hit max ilvl if it titanforged then yes, thats how it worked. Really strange way to word things though.
Then you can progress through harder content to earn the higher rewards.
Highly unlikely yet not impossible. I don’t care how “unlikely” it was. It should have never been a thing to begin with.
Link my post where I mislead people.
