The craven’s stratagem effect from the legendary in shadowlands was a really good idea. Replace the feign death honor talent with that effect which is much better and hunters will have an easier time.
Non dwarf hunters have no counter play into bleeds unless they spec survival, craven’s was a good addition and gave them counter play options. Now the hunters are the hunted.
A bad idea imo. I’m a hunter main and as much as that would help our survivability, it was just too much. It’s basically an inst-win vs any dot spec with 0 downsides. Was very toxic for the game.
hunters need it with the way things are now. that way I could change to night elf or human.
Maybe when it was at 20 second cooldown, it’s way more balanced when it was nerfed to 30 second.
The only reason I wish it would come back is the increasing number of red bordered dots that aren’t categorized into magic, disease, poison, curse, or bleed.
Basically an increasing number of damage over time with no real counterplay. Especially in the current meta where hunters no longer have access to self heals through conduits etc
craven’s stratagem effect needs to come back with the shorter cooldown version, hunter’s mark should increase all physical damage dealt to the target by 5%, and the legion trait where aspect of the turtle healed you for a percentage of your health should come back.
Maybe give all hunter specs mending bandage on top of it.
Bring back the battle rez pet, make animal companion pets have their active and autocast abilities while applying passives.
Reduce the cooldown of camo too.
True shot aura and another group buff on top that would grant allies “thrill of the hunt” increasing ranged and melee phyical crit chance and replenished caster’s mana when landing a critical strike.
Giving guardian druids and/or all druids leader of the pack back and placing it in the druid tree as a capstone talent would combo well with a physical comp of a hunter/monk/warrior core.
Speaking of conduits, the hunter’s mark conduit could be added as a baseline passive effect that reduced the target’s damage by 5% on all party members so it would always be worth casting.
It was nerfed from this version for a reason. Sometimes things are more about how frustrating it is to deal with.
As a dot class, having everything purged every couple of seconds was infuriating. Abomination limb is another example of this, you have virtually no way to interact with it. Hopefully Kyrian spear follows suit.
Craven stratagem is so strong you could increase the CD by 10 seconds on Feign and if still take it, it’s that good. Personally I thought it felt much more balanced at the end of shadowlands.
You can either have reduced cooldown feign death or craven stratagem. I think it’s too much to ask for both.
The short cd provided hunters with smoother tempo when fighting in shuffles, the increased cd on feign felt worse.
I didn’t mind playing against it, and really enjoyed playing with it. So it was a win win for me.
They made feign have a proc chance to make your nameplate invisible over character name and on gladius, its the only reason hunter is not always instantly dying now. If it doesn’t proc though were fuked, its also a bug. A bug that is almost mandatory in arena, its been 3+ patches and still no fix they totally don’t care for this class
Craven being gone is the best thing this expansion has done, it was a toxic mechanic and never should of been implemented anyways.
Something tells me you aren’t very good at survival in the arena. Hunters only insta blow up when they get caught with bad positioning. Look at where you are dying and fix that.
I actually find the worst map to actually have any good positioning is Blades Edge, if I hang back I stand ontop of my healer, if I go anywhere towards the center of bridge I just get instantly targeted and zugged down. If I jump off I’m basically out of the fight and potentially LOSing my healer. That map I can’t see to find a decent position to fight in.
Blades Edge is a trash map for sure. Even casters hate the map.
There is just no safe position to sit back, and going in for a trap? LOL Impossible. If I enter within the middle where melee are scrapping I will instantly be charged, storm bolted, and speared lol.
Why not make feign pvp talent just dispell a few more things like kyrian spear and some op bleeds a few more poisons as well and a few magic effects. We dont need craven just a small buff to the pvp talent to do a weaker version. Craven was to much in pvp. I get were hurting but that thing destroyed dot classes which we need help against but we shouldnt get free wins vs it either.
I’d take a weakened version baseline, but I don’t want that sh*t to be as obligatory as it was, nor as powerful as it was.
Greatly reduced DoT damage taken and negative effects expire more quickly while feigning death (not retained for a lengthy duration after, let along purging those effects)? Sure; maybe even baseline that. As it was, though? No.
“to make hunters stronger” how can you make a crusty wet napkin stronger? It basically needs craven to exist, because right now the current feign pvp talent is killing us, It’s supposed to help clear dots from casters, but it doesn’t dispel most dots still and like 4 different classes have dispel protection which ducks us really really hard…
Hey dipas$ I was rank 45 surv hunt in solo my 2nd week playing it at 2450+ before I went on vacation, you have a lot of really stupid opinions very interesting to see, since hunter is like the best ever why haven’t you been past 500cr
Cov is better at hunter than you could ever dream of being but okay LMAO
Lol ya let’s bring back SLs (cravens) trait that was so OP it was a win condition to every hunter using it no matter what spec they were. You could literally be dog crud at hunter and win with that talent, every 15 secs.
imagine trying to punch up to someone with 3x ur titles+higher rss cr/higher wr and 300 over ur peak in an actual bracket
craven was a crutch and one of the worst things to ever be introduced to the game and if u think it’s the solution for hunters to be able to invalidate classes for existing ur fried beyond fried
Bringing back the dispell effect only (not the cdr) would be enough though and way less broken