And watch how many put Wintergrasp on blacklist.
JUST…GET…RID…OF…WINTERGRASP.
I’m literally just automatically leaving as soon as it pops.
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Blacklisting fixes so many problems. It also helps the Devs understand what the community doesn’t want in the game and gives them idea to design future BGs.
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I did fish in there oddly you can. Usually I do leave though. I would black list Siege maps because I want to PvP. They can’t get Siege maps right so all of them should be removed. I wouldn’t mind Siege maps if they only damage structures and we had to PvP around them to win the objectives. As is right now for some crazy reason cannons do more dmg than players which isn’t acceptable.
im with ya on the black listing, but id use it for Trashran. and now its been super laggy for like 2 days now… gimme WG over that any day.
Ashran is the best Epic map we ever got in the history of this game. In WoD would spend hours in there at a time. Obviously it needs a revamp and a few fixes to restore it to it’s previous iteration. However at least you are fighting in there over objectives. There is PvP where in a Siege map there is not and you get 1 shot by cannons. I’ll take an Epic Ashran or AV where we turtle and don’t kill the boss every time!!!
Epic BGs have potential if they would take some time to make them the 30+ min Epic PvP battles they should be which means no Siege/Cannons farming players.
I would remove the end Bosses in all Epic BGs. Perhaps double the resources so we can enjoy some PvP in there.
Trashran and just about everything in WoD was terrible. the only time Trashran was bearable was when the alliance would run the road and kill our general or whoever, and we ran around doing objectives and earning more CQ per hour.
and fighting over objectives? Horde runs into the forest to pick flowers and kill the arrakoa, alliance rush to our mage and kill him and Horde loses a ton of resources and alliance turtle and wear the horde down. if you want to call that fighting over objectives… oh once a while the horde and alliance might fight over the ogre. thats about it. no other objectives are done. i have never seen either general get killed, but tbh, i leave alot of Trashrans, cuz it is that horrible. it should have died with WoD.
i would take a Tol Barad epic BG over Trashran… I’d rather listen to Pip fart on a snare drum, than play Trashran.
WG needs some tweaks, wall health for one needs to be lowered. the other problem with WG is getting in on Offense, no one will listen or even try something different, they all just run into SR with cannons hitting them while fighting players, and dying and giving rank to Defense who then pulls 16 demos and its over. Also then, you have players coming and going at a large rate, meaning you have very few people with rank as people just coming in have to start from the beginning, and its almost impossible. but even still, i have far more fun in any WG than i ever do in Trashran.
Trashran and Seething Shore would be my 2 to blacklist. I would take back Strand of the Ancients, if we could get rid of one of those 2.
when was the last epic bg released? lol
Worst BG ever made glad it’s gone
No. WG and all Siege maps have a history of not working in this game and remove the PvP from the BG which is why they are hated.
The “MAIN” issue with WG and Siege maps is the actual Sieges/Cannons and objectives. Sieges are to damage structures NOT players. The players are supposed to PvP around and over the Sieges. Not use Sieges to kill players.
Base cannons should be used to kill Sieges, Airship in Isle should be only able to dmg base cannons and Sieges.
These maps are a joke right now and we aren’t trying because they don’t have PvP in it and no one wants to get 1 shot from a mile away from a Siege that isn’t PvP.
Siege dmg against players either needs to be completely removed or be reduced by 95%. They should do 1-2k AoE dmg to player and be used to damage structures. Then that way we can actually PvP in there and have Epic battles.
It’s still infinitely better than WG/Isle. Since it actually has PvP where you attack the other faction with your character and fight at Flowers, Mage, Ogre and then pushing the flag back and forth.
As of now the Siege maps have zero PvP in it and it won’t change till they fix the Siege/Cannons and do the suggestion I listed.
Epic BGs should be 30-45 mins of actual PvP where you get 30-60 KBs and 100’s of HKs. We need to get them there and work on PvP “OVER” objectives. Not using objectives to remove the PvP.
WG/Isle is unplayable.
While I agree with you, I think the devs reasoning for not allowing blacklisting is because there are players who really enjoy those BGs and would be upset if they couldn’t play one because it never popped up.
But I guess the devs don’t understand human psychology very well. People who hate something are much more passionate about their hate than people who enjoy something. So when people quit, the hate will outweigh the few things they enjoy when deciding to return to the game. They’ll remember all the things they hate while overlooking the things they enjoy. The inconvenience is the stronger motivator.
So let me get this right… Upset almost everyone because there is no blacklisting which means more deserter and backfilling pissing people off and then they take deserter. Just to keep a few people happy that enjoy these undesired BGs that should be removed from the game?
You agree with me because it’s common sense. The Devs are losing more subs and causing more pain in the community by not having Blacklisting. Not to mention not knowing what to design next or what the community wants from these BGs.
It’s because there are so few things that are enjoyable. All the Epic BGs are bad and need work. There are a 2 of them that are bearable but are a far shot of actual fun.
This is why we need Blacklisting and open Dev communication to fix so much that is wrong and all the pain points of the community. There is more that is wrong with BGs then fun and actually good content.
This is a salvage operation at this point and Blacklisting is a start.
Korrak’s Revenge?
Or the re-releases — Wintergrasp/Ashran?
you cant blacklist the ones you dont like but you can specifically QUE FOR THE ONE YOU LIKE.
“but what about the bonus for randoms boomy? i need every tiny spec of free bonus anything i can get so im not wasting my time online!!?”
you have to win first little fella
Ok, kiddo.
Truth, If I pop in and I am on D it is 50/50 ill stay cause I know its a win. If I am on offence Auto /afk
i would love to be able to blacklist even just one bg so the one you hate you never have to play. i get that not allowing blacklisting on rated bgs but for normals why force people to play bgs they hate… or blizz just remove seething shores and bring back strand of the ancients
Also remove Temple of Kotmogu.
Blizz is scared to bring back blacklisting. If they do it, most people will BL wintergrasp and seething shore. Those 2 BG’s will almost cease to exist. They’d have to admit that those BG’s are failures.
Basically exactly what happened when everyone BL’d strand of the ancients.
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so hard up for a bonus you’re willing to play trash maps for a bit of conquest lol.
SPECIFIC QUE the maps you want.