There wasn’t any class during MOP that I didn’t like playing. Brewmaster, fury war, resto druid, and holy paladin were my favorite four and all of them felt great to play. And not only that, I could gear those four characters and not worry about falling behind on my weapon/neck/whatever levels. There was a finite amount of gear grinding to get those characters up to an endgame playable state.
PvP gear was BIS for PvP and vice versa for PvE, and PvP gear mattered when you were PvPing. The reforge and gem system allowed for gear customization, which lead to me me to still be excited about non-BiS pieces.
The warforging system, and the length of time I ran SOO are my only complaints.
I’ll agree with this. As a casual beer and pretzel raider not having to turn away people due to flex raiding is amazing. Our raid leader loves it as she doesn’t have to make sit out lists trying to make sure everyone can participate.
I will agree world pvp was more active in MoP. Back on Cenarius before my old guild Clan Blood Moon fell apart this xpac, we hosted World boss Wednesdays for Horde back in MoP. Killed all the world bosses then finished up the night by killing the Alliance leaders.
After a few weeks guilds on the Alliance like Arathian Knights started fighting us at the bosses. Normally we had 5 full 40mans each week with two instances of vent running to fit everyone. It was a much more fun time back then. And Cenarius is not even a pvp realm yet we had it regularly every week for a few months.
Well for one thing without many of the class glyphs taken out in Legion and prior our talents and such just look bland and it left a few not even worthwhile to use, plus several abilities of this expansion were considered integral to class toolkits, also since this was before WoD classes could still use a secondary armor type for mogging which for those of us mail users meant better armor looks and what not because we had more class themes to work with. All of these made MoP design superior and it’s what most people mean when they say “bring back MoP design” ,what they really mean is: “bring back the features deleted since WoD/Legion”.
I get that, but it’s still a virtually unexplored continent for me.
Tons of mogs and achievements yet to be snatched.
For you guys, I’m willing to bet it’s the same feeling I get from Outland/Northrend. I enjoyed both thoroughly in their heyday, but now find the 60-80 leveling experience almost cringeworthy.
Rep was not NEEDED for anything other than achievements. the only rep needed to be grinded out was the black price rep for leggo cloak and you could literally grind it out by killing mobs on isle of thunder for around 2hours… I know cause i did it and remember it very well
This is actually what caused me to quit WoW for the first time. World of Dailycraft was too much. It burned me out big time and pushed me to other MMOs.
It’s possible that MoP had plenty of other things going for it, but that alone killed the expansion for me. I didn’t return until mid-Legion. >_<
I am nostalgic for Mop I see mop and TBC mentioned the most for nostalgia in trade discussions. For me any patch of Mop prior to 5.4 was the best pvp the game has ever seen. In 5.4 raid gear outpaced pvp gear out in the world just because of raw stats and health.
MoP had a good PvP vendor, and its pre-pruning. It also had reforging, and though professions werent that important they still had a direct impact on my stats.
Basically I had a lot of buttons to press, and so did my opponents (task complexity) and I had a lot of control over what my character did and how it worked (player agency).
That was MoP for me. I didnt raid, because raiding wasnt the only valid form of content at the time, so not everyone will have had the same experience as me.
Indeed. Who played one then and does not recall the walking nuclear arsenal that was destro warlock and our Chaos Bolt? I remember fighting Ordos and critting at over a million damage. You talk about your corruption effects, they are wet noodles compared to MoP Chaos Bolt. sighs
MoP Disc priest was the most fun class I’ve ever played. Popping spirit shell and shielding the raid with prayer of healing was fun and felt powerful. All of the classes in MoP were more fun. One of the biggest things was that class abilities were the most powerful aspects of their gameplay. You didn’t have to rely on borrowed power gimmicks.
I guess we are all going to pretend that mop wasn’t the slowest selling xpac of all time and that several million players didn’t quit and never come back…
I think part of what people forget when they call MoP “homogenized” is that while many classes had similar tools, there was significant variation in how those tools worked.
Its this weird thing called nuance.
I also dont understand how people can make the homogenization argument for MoP, where each of the 11 classes had distinct playstyles and strengths, from the perspective of post-Legion design, where each DPS class had basically the same copy-paste builder spender rotation.
The narrower spec design they attempted later is appropriate for a Moba where you can change your character every 30 minutes. In WoW they expect you to invest for like 4 months per content cycle just to gear and farm AP. Broad-ish design is appropriate when we’re expected to invest so much in a single character.
And yet at the same time, MoP was also the first and only expansion where the subscriber free-fall stopped and actually reversed 4 major patches into an x-pac since WoTLK. The numerical data backs up that MoP was the best expansion to be released after Wrath (the only way that would change is if Legion was actually massively more popular yet Blizzard still insisted on hiding the numbers for some reason, which is unlikely).
Literally look at graph, dude. MoP fell to 7 million subscribers in the first half a year (this is mostly due to the immense daily quest grind and community sentiment regarding the Pandaren aesthetic), and then stayed at a steady 7 million for the next year and a half. WoD started at 10 million and dropped like a stone. Legion did the same. BFA didn’t even reach that much and dropped far more than the others. If you deny the numbers at this point you’re just willfully being ignorant.
